Hudson gains UH-Victoria prez job - USM Forum -- Message Board

Date: Jul 23, 2004

Hudson gains UH-Victoria prez job

Date: Jul 23, 2004

I'm sure we all wish Dr. Hudson the very best in his new role. Now if you will all join hands, the prayer service for the new provost will begin . . .

Date: Jul 23, 2004

I can't wait to see what Austin Eagle has to say about this.

Date: Jul 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: BogusBoy
Thames said . . . "The word about Southern Miss is getting out."

Yes the word is getting out, sir. I live hundreds of miles away, and even people here have heard about the manner with which your professors were treated. They even know their names.

Date: Jul 23, 2004

This warrants repeating here:

Originally posted by: Lamont Cranston:
"I realize that Tim Hudson has taken a great deal of bashing during the past few weeks - criticisms, as well as the butt of humorous remarks. However, I would to remind everyone that, as far as I can determine, Tim Hudson was the only USM higher-level administrator (whether chair, dean, or provost) who had the courage to make any public statement expressing concern about the way Sringer and Glamser were treated with regard to the procedural component of the attempted termination . . ."

Date: Jul 23, 2004

Well, folks. It has been real and it has been fun. I can't say that it has always been real fun. I can say that I've done my part and now it's time for someone else to pick up the mantle.

Chess has switched to golf and will leave you all with this final word...FORE!

Date: Jul 23, 2004

So does this mean that CHESS is really Tim Hudson????!!!!

Date: Jul 23, 2004

So another native Mississippian is moving on. There have been others, you know. I, for one, am yet to recover from trauma I endured some years ago in the pre- Thames era. Even Exit 13 would pale by comparison.

Date: Jul 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: BogusBoy
" The hiring, Southern Miss President Dr. Shelby Thames said, reflects Hudson's sterling credentials and capable leadership while further illustrating Southern Miss' growing national stature. .... Having one of our own administrators considered and selected for such a prestigious position reinforces our belief that Southern Miss is a world-class university," Thames said. "It seems our reputation for nurturing and producing top-notch talent is starting to make itself known. The word about Southern Miss is getting out.

I wish Dr. Hudson well. It is another great loss for our University and yet another gain for Texas. No doubt our national profile is growing but the Thames suggestioning a national profile is truly world class @&%%. It is humiliating to see USM where it is today I am grateful to no longer be a part of this and only wish that I too had gone to Texas with Gary and Hudson. Being gone is good enough.

Date: Jul 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Rudy Kazootie
"So does this mean that CHESS is really Tim Hudson????!!!!"

It may mean that CHESS is now going to post as FORE.

Date: Jul 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Invictus
" It may mean that CHESS is now going to post as FORE."

No, no. If he started posting as FORE, that means he would be posting by TWO.

Date: Jul 23, 2004

"It seems our reputation for nurturing and producing top-notch talent is starting to make itself known. The word about Southern Miss is getting out."

Ha, ha, ha - Nurture? ha, ha, ha - Produce? ha, ha, ha

Top notch talent? When did you recognize that, Shelboo?

"The word about Southern Miss is getting out" - AHA, Shelbeee you never nurtured, you never produced, you never recognized the top notch talent you had (because talent is a whole different definition in your world), but you are right the word is getting out -- just not in the way that you think.

Date: Jul 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Top Notch
Shelbeee . . . you but you are right the word is getting out -- just not in the way that you think."

Cross Country Eagle already said in an earlier post on this thread: "Yes the word is getting out, sir. I live hundreds of miles away, and even people here have heard about the manner with which your professors were treated. They even know their names." But it is so good to hear it repeated. Say it again, please. It sounds so good.

Date: Jul 23, 2004

Exactly, CCE. I resent him taking credit for Producing and Nurturing Top Notch Talent when all he did was create a terribly toxic environment that basically forced me to seek another job, in (using his words) a more "prestigious" place.

Oh, yes, the word is getting out!!!

Date: Jul 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: disgusted
"It is humiliating to see USM where it is today I am grateful to no longer be a part of this and only wish that I too had gone to Texas with Gary and Hudson. Being gone is good enough."

"Gone to Texas." I suggest Webster add this phrase as a companion to the dictionary's oft cited "Vacationing in Texas."

Date: Jul 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Invictus
"I can't wait to see what Austin Eagle has to say about this."

Your wish is my command Dr. Invictus. Here's what I think. I'll strive to be uncharacteristically serious just this once.

I'm not at all surprised at this selection. In fact I posted here some weeks ago that my UH sources placed Timmy in the favorite's position for the UH-Victoria job. He looks good on paper, and I imagine he'd interview well, given his gift for BS.

I have more than a passing acquaintence with TH, and my take is that he's smart, wily, and capable, but has a little trouble with his moral compass. Sometimes he even leaves it at home. I don't know whether this behavior evolved as a survival technique, or is innate. If Tim can adapt to a non good-old-boy milieu and work under a competent straight-arrow chancellor, he could do well. But, I have my doubts. UH-V is still in its infancy, but UH has grown to be a first rate (if not yet "world class") university, and I don't think the old Hudson/USM managerial paradigm will bring success or longevity. It'll be interesting to observe whether, with a different mentor and a capable board of regents watching the store, he'll change his ways.

AE

Date: Jul 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Austin Eagle
" Your wish is my command Dr. Invictus. Here's what I think. I'll strive to be uncharacteristically serious just this once. I'm not at all surprised at this selection. In fact I posted here some weeks ago that my UH sources placed Timmy in the favorite's position for the UH-Victoria job. He looks good on paper, and I imagine he'd interview well, given his gift for BS. I have more than a passing acquaintence with TH, and my take is that he's smart, wily, and capable, but has a little trouble with his moral compass. Sometimes he even leaves it at home. I don't know whether this behavior evolved as a survival technique, or is innate. If Tim can adapt to a non good-old-boy milieu and work under a competent straight-arrow chancellor, he could do well. But, I have my doubts. UH-V is still in its infancy, but UH has grown to be a first rate (if not yet "world class") university, and I don't think the old Hudson/USM managerial paradigm will bring success or longevity. It'll be interesting to observe whether, with a different mentor and a capable board of regents watching the store, he'll change his ways. AE "

I concur with this.

Date: Jul 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Austin Eagle
"It'll be interesting to observe whether, with a different mentor and a capable board of regents watching the store, he'll change his ways."

Thanks, AE.

How he pans out at UH-V will probably answer your question about whether his style has been a survival strategy or is innate. He will be in a different environment, that's for sure.

Date: Jul 23, 2004

quote:
" . . . while further illustrating Southern Miss' growing national stature.
Having one of our own administrators considered and selected for such a prestigious position reinforces our belief that Southern Miss is a world-class university," Thames said.
"It seems our reputation for nurturing and producing top-notch talent is starting to make itself known. The word about Southern Miss is getting out." "

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and up is down, black is white, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Date: Jul 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: BogusBoy
""This is great news both for Dr. Hudson and for The University of Southern Mississippi. Having one of our own administrators considered and selected for such a prestigious position reinforces our belief that Southern Miss is a world-class university," Thames said. "

<sarcasm>I suppose I need to alert Chancellor Gee that if he wants Vandy to be "worl' class," he should start encouraging his provost to look for another job.</sarcasm>

Stupid, stupid, stupid. What a crazy, mixed-up world Shelboo must inhabit if this is his definition of "worl' class!"

Date: Jul 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: BogusBoy
"The hiring, Southern Miss President Dr. Shelby Thames said, reflects Hudson's sterling credentials and capable leadership while further illustrating Southern Miss' growing national stature. "This is great news both for Dr. Hudson and for The University of Southern Mississippi. Having one of our own administrators considered and selected for such a prestigious position reinforces our belief that Southern Miss is a world-class university," Thames said. "

I understand that UH is a good school, but I've never heard of UH-Victoria until now. What is so "prestigious" about this job? You'd think he got hired by Harvard, Yale, or Princeton. Shelboo is hallucinating.

Date: Jul 23, 2004

i think a lot of sphincter muscles are relaxing in the dome. (maybe the flatus will be passing) TH and associates were going to be ousted, this job makes it easier to make a change in provost and allow some face saving for all parties.

Date: Jul 23, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: stinky cheese man
". . .TH and associates were going to be ousted. . ."

Which associates?

Date: Jul 23, 2004

i know of at least one subordinate that was too closely linked with some of TH's doings and not doing very much.