C.L.--5 abortion opponents arrested - USM Forum -- Message Board

Date: Jul 17, 2006

C.L.--5 abortion opponents arrested

Date: Jul 17, 2006

Note to fellow Episcopalians: you may be interested in the Rev. George Woodliff's statement at StandFirm, and an opportunity to sign a renunciation of TEC's membership in RCRC. The link is http://www.standfirminfaith.com/jaccuse.php (not a "live link").

I was profoundly shocked to learn that TEC now "officially" and without reference to the convictions of its membership, endorses a pro-abortion agenda, as of January 2006.

Also, I am not going to engage in a pro vs anti abortion debate on this board. My only purpose in posting this is to inform several of the other board members who have identified themselves as Anglican.

Date: Jul 18, 2006

You should be careful of the labels you use for people.

I am pro-choice. I am NOT "pro-abortion."

I believe that women should have the right to make decisions about their own bodies, with the counsel of their doctor, in accordance with their religious beliefs, and without the interference of the mostly male government.

I do not "celebrate" abortion. I am not "pro-abortion."

I'm not going to engage in debate with you, either. You can believe whatever you want to believe. But you shouldn't expect to fire off propagandized labels like you did without being called on it.

Date: Jul 18, 2006

C.L.-- Divided on abortion

Day 3 sees more arrests, vandalism, false report

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060718/NEWS/607180388/1001/news

(How do I post a non-hot link?)

Date: Jul 18, 2006

H.A.--Religious officials back abortion protest
By Ed Enoch

http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060718/NEWS01/607180313/1002

(Still can't make link not hot.)

Date: Jul 18, 2006

Pro-Choice Pro-Child Pro-Woman wrote:

You should be careful of the labels you use for people.
I am pro-choice. I am NOT "pro-abortion."
I believe that women should have the right to make decisions about their own bodies, with the counsel of their doctor, in accordance with their religious beliefs, and without the interference of the mostly male government.
I do not "celebrate" abortion. I am not "pro-abortion."
I'm not going to engage in debate with you, either. You can believe whatever you want to believe. But you shouldn't expect to fire off propagandized labels like you did without being called on it.

I assume this post is addressed to me. I did not label "you" -- I referenced an action by my own church. Unless you're a member of the Executive Committee of The Episcopal Church, I'm not talking to you or about you.

And I certainly did not use the word "celebrate" -- where in the world did you get that?

Date: Jul 18, 2006

without the interference of the mostly male government

The "government " as in making laws, is elected in this country. Women have the right to vote and in many instances exercise that right to a greater extent than males. Your statement had some credibility until you displayed your bias. As you stated so well, "But you shouldn't expect to fire off propagandized labels like you did without being called on it." You just got called on it.

Date: Jul 20, 2006

C.L.-- Anti-abortionists' burning of Quran called 'hateful'

By Jean Gordon

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060720/NEWS/607200393/1001/news

Date: Jul 20, 2006

I don't know why these folks would burn a Koran--They have so much in common with the Taliban, especially in how they regard women.

But they will whip up the passions of Mississippi's knuckle-walking faithful.

I propose that all fundamentalists be barred from any medical advances related to stem-cell research. Got Parkinson's? No problem; you just get to see Jesus sooner. Have a nice day!

Date: Jul 20, 2006

They have so much in common with the Taliban, especially in how they regard women.
But they will whip up the passions of Mississippi's knuckle-walking faithful.
I propose that all fundamentalists be barred from any medical advances related to stem-cell research. Got Parkinson's? No problem; you just get to see Jesus sooner. Have a nice day!

You seem to have a low opinion of these folks. Your well-reasoned articulate analysis of their position is duly noted.

Date: Jul 20, 2006

Cossack wrote:

You seem to have a low opinion of these folks.

How high is your opinion of people who burn the Quran as an abortion protest? Are you defending the abject stupidity of the gesture? the mean-spiritness?

Date: Jul 20, 2006

How high is your opinion of people who burn the Quran as an abortion protest? Are you defending the abject stupidity of the gesture? the mean-spiritness?

Actually you and the protester have a lot in common in the mean spirit department.

Date: Jul 20, 2006

Cossack wrote:

How high is your opinion of people who burn the Quran as an abortion protest? Are you defending the abject stupidity of the gesture? the mean-spiritness?

Actually you and the protester have a lot in common in the mean spirit department.

Don't be offended, OP. This is just Cossack's way of not answering your questions. You will notice that Cossack is never "mean spirited".

Date: Jul 21, 2006

C.L.--Anti-abortionists shut out

Church closes doors to group

By Jean Gordon

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060721/NEWS/607210364/1001

Date: Jul 22, 2006

C.L.--Anti-abortion protests to continue

Other groups oppose 'tactics'

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060722/NEWS/607220343/1001/news

"There is no way to 'sugar coat' abortion," said Tanya Britton, president of Pro-Life Mississippi, in a statement. "There is no way to soften the reality of abortion. What are we to do? Provide half truths to our brothers and sisters as they perish for lack of knowledge? Or do we provide the uncompromised truth (always in love) and accept that this is what Jesus would do?"

Operation Save America burned a copy of the Islamic holy book, the Quran, during a gathering Tuesday at the Making Jesus Real church in Pearl. The church shut its doors to the group upon learning what happened. The group also allegedly attempted to destroy a rainbow flag, a symbol of the gay community.

Unity Mississippi, a Mississippi-based lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender organization, issued a statement condemning burning of the flag.

"The burning of the flag and Operation Save America's bigoted position on gay and lesbian individuals and families, as well as our allies, is hateful and attempts to invoke terror and fear within Mississippi's communities."