H.A. Update--Three players leaving Southern Miss team - USM Forum -- Message Board

Date: May 18, 2006

H.A. Update--Three players leaving Southern Miss team

Date: May 19, 2006

You know, I don't know jack about basketball, but this guy Eustachy just seems like a loser. Very much in the mold of SFT...so I'm not surprised.

Truth

Date: May 19, 2006

Notice that "Eagle Talk" has no criticism of this situation. If it were James Green who had dismissed anyone, they would be up in arms.

Date: May 19, 2006

truth4usm/AH

You might not know much about basketball, but this is more about a person than basketball. Your observation is quite accurate. While James Green was here, he got very little monetary support to recruit and had to beg for every dollar. Eustachy has flown all over the US recruiting which indicates he is being given much more monetary support than James Green was given. Green won (tied) the conference one year when it was much tougher than it is now. Many of Green's players graduated and were good citizens. I think that the three players leaving were recruited by Green. Given his recent record with players Eustachy recruited, the current crop likely will not graduate and some will not stay the season. In my opinion, the athletic director made bad choice and is trying to salvage it.

Date: May 19, 2006

Cossack wrote:

truth4usm/AH You might not know much about basketball, but this is more about a person than basketball. Your observation is quite accurate. While James Green was here, he got very little monetary support to recruit and had to beg for every dollar. Eustachy has flown all over the US recruiting which indicates he is being given much more monetary support than James Green was given. Green won (tied) the conference one year when it was much tougher than it is now. Many of Green's players graduated and were good citizens. I think that the three players leaving were recruited by Green. Given his recent record with players Eustachy recruited, the current crop likely will not graduate and some will not stay the season. In my opinion, the athletic director made bad choice and is trying to salvage it.

Cossack and Truth, I heard these players were being "run off" to "make room" (scholarships?) for the better players just recruited. That may be why EagleTalk is not making a big deal of this.

Date: May 19, 2006

Eustacy is pretty much following the pattern of doing whatever is necessary to "try" to win. Thus far at USM, Coach E has been a complete failure. He is now taking it to a new level.

I notice one of the newly recruited players has not completed his academic requirements for graduation at juco but he will be on campus "completing" his degree.

It will be very interesting to see how many in this new class a)actually start the season b)complete the season.

The real comfort in this situation is that Eustacy is not at USM because he needs a job,(as printed in HA he has done really well before he arrived USM--fired at previous job) but only because he loves coaching.

Date: May 19, 2006

Nobody transfers before their senior year. They have to sit out a year, and then they have only a year of eligibility left. No serious other coach would invest the time for such little return.

Eustachy recruited Cornwell, who was a JC transfer anyway. I think he recruited Ambres. Singleton is a Green guy.

I only see four recruits listed for next year on the site I check. If it such the case as the HA says, then it is incredibly bad ethics to sign more players than you have spots for. I think this is wrong reporting, but they may have some insider knowledge of what will happen.

In any case, it still is horrible ethics not to see your players through their senior year.

By the way three of the four recruits for next year are prep school guys, which means they are idiots in the classroom and needed another year of schooling before college to qualify. They are all coming from North Carolina prep schools too.

Date: May 19, 2006

They are all coming from North Carolina prep schools too.

Not to Chapel Hill? Charlotte? Raleigh? So what does that tell uss???????

Date: May 19, 2006

Another site has us with nine letter of intents. So I guess the story is right.

And then again the story is completely wrong.

I follow college basketball very closely, and I have never heard of such turnover of potential seniors. Completely irresponsible.

If it were academics, that would be said since it is the easy way out for coaches. So I would say that Eustachy said leave and I will try to find you a place at an even more rinky dink program. With probably little success. And if they didn't accept, he was just going to cut them. If I were the player, I would have forced him to do that.

Yanking a senior's scholarship is taboo. Players won't come after that.

There may have been money involved.

Date: May 19, 2006

hoop dreams wrote:

Nobody transfers before their senior year. They have to sit out a year, and then they have only a year of eligibility left.

Here's a link to a longer version of the story: HOT LINK

Does the player who transfers to something other than a Div. I school have to sit out a year?

Date: May 19, 2006

another site wrote:

Another site has us with nine letter of intents. So I guess the story is right.

And then again the story is completely wrong.

I follow college basketball very closely, and I have never heard of such turnover of potential seniors. Completely irresponsible.

If it were academics, that would be said since it is the easy way out for coaches. So I would say that Eustachy said leave and I will try to find you a place at an even more rinky dink program. With probably little success. And if they didn't accept, he was just going to cut them. If I were the player, I would have forced him to do that.

Yanking a senior's scholarship is taboo. Players won't come after that.

There may have been money involved.

If there is any truth to the above comments, LE is a complete slimeball who has no business working with young people. What ever happened to the idea that these were student athletes and that coaches sought to build character? This is just another symptom of USM descent into irrelevance.

Date: May 19, 2006

tuppy glossop wrote:

another site wrote: Another site has us with nine letter of intents. So I guess the story is right. And then again the story is completely wrong. I follow college basketball very closely, and I have never heard of such turnover of potential seniors. Completely irresponsible. If it were academics, that would be said since it is the easy way out for coaches. So I would say that Eustachy said leave and I will try to find you a place at an even more rinky dink program. With probably little success. And if they didn't accept, he was just going to cut them. If I were the player, I would have forced him to do that. Yanking a senior's scholarship is taboo. Players won't come after that. There may have been money involved. If there is any truth to the above comments, LE is a complete slimeball who has no business working with young people. What ever happened to the idea that these were student athletes and that coaches sought to build character? This is just another symptom of USM descent into irrelevance.

Are you familiar with Larry's background?

Date: May 20, 2006

hot link wrote:

hoop dreams wrote: Nobody transfers before their senior year. They have to sit out a year, and then they have only a year of eligibility left. Here's a link to a longer version of the story: HOT LINK Does the player who transfers to something other than a Div. I school have to sit out a year?

They can start immediately at an NAIA or NCAA Div. II or III school. Think of Jasper Johnson, who was playing for Delta State (Div. II) the season after he left USM. I suspect Singleton will probably go to William Carey (NAIA) since his girlfriend, ex-Lady Eagle Deondra Carter, still goes to USM.