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Angeline

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Aaah - Mississippi making the national media once again.  I realize this is not exactly on-topic, but it also speaks to Mississippi's lack of support for education.  From the NYTimes:


June 11, 2004

OP-ED COLUMNIST


Punishing the Poor

By BOB HERBERT





If you want to see "compassionate" conservatism in action, take a look at Mississippi, a state that is solidly in the red category (strong for Bush) and committed to its long tradition of keeping the poor and the unfortunate in as ragged and miserable a condition as possible.


How's this for compassion? Mississippi has approved the deepest cut in Medicaid eligibility for senior citizens and the disabled that has ever been approved anywhere in the U.S.


The new policy will end Medicaid eligibility for some 65,000 low-income senior citizens and people with severe disabilities — people like Traci Alsup, a 36-year-old mother of three who was left a quadriplegic after a car accident.


The cut in eligibility for seniors and the disabled was the most dramatic component of a stunning rollback of services in Mississippi's Medicaid program. The rollback was initiated by the Republican-controlled State Senate and Mississippi's new governor, Haley Barbour, a former chairman of the national Republican Party. When he signed the new law on May 26, Mr. Barbour complained about taxpayers having to "pay for free health care for people who can work and take care of themselves and just choose not to."


The governor is free to characterize the victims of the cuts as deadbeats if he wants to. Others have described them as patients suffering from diseases like cerebral palsy and Alzheimer's, and people incapacitated by diabetes or heart disease or various forms of paralysis, and individuals struggling with the agony of schizophrenia or other forms of serious mental illness.


The 65,000 seniors and disabled individuals who will lose their Medicaid eligibility have incomes so low they effectively have no money to pay for their health care. The new law coldly reduces the maximum income allowed for an individual to receive Medicaid in Mississippi from an impecunious $12,569 per year to a beggarly $6,768.


Many of the elderly recipients have Medicare coverage, but their Medicare benefits in most cases will not come close to meeting their overall requirements — which include huge prescription drug bills, doctor visits and often long-term care.


According to the Mississippi Health Advocacy Program, which is coordinating an effort to somehow maintain the Medicaid coverage: "The people affected are low-income retirees now subsisting on Social Security or other pension benefits and people who have permanent disabilities that prevent them from being able to work."


Jane Powell, a 75-year-old Jackson resident who fears she will be lopped off the program, told reporters she has 10 different prescriptions for a variety of ailments, including heart disease and osteoporosis.


She worried aloud that if the law is not changed she might someday be found "dead in the street."


While Mr. Barbour insists he won't reconsider the matter, a backlash is developing against the cutbacks, which are extreme even for Mississippi.


The Democratic-controlled House opposed the cuts all along but gave in at the last minute. Democratic leaders insisted they were coerced. Technical aspects of the state's Medicaid law have to be renewed every year by the Legislature. If they are not, control of the entire Medicaid program can go to the governor. The Democrats said they were afraid that under those circumstances Mr. Barbour would have cut services even more.


At the time the bill was signed, the House speaker, Billy McCoy, called it "an absolute sin on society."


Now, with public clamor growing, the House (including most of the Republican members) is attempting to have the law reversed.


Representative Steve Holland, chairman of the House Public Health and Human Services Committee, told me this week: "My heart has been broken and crushed and stomped to pieces over this. I knew this was wrong."


He added, "This governor is my friend, but he's a Republican and his mantra is to starve this beast of big government in Mississippi."


I asked Mr. Holland if he thought Mississippi had a big government.


"Good God, no!" he said.


In an interview for Monday's column, Senator Jack Reed inadvertently said that he had co-sponsored an amendment to expand the size of the Army with Senator Charles Schumer. He said he had meant to say Senator Chuck Hagel.  



E-mail: bobherb@nytimes.com



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truth4usm/AH

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What always makes my blood boil about these sorts of stories is this:  cutting $$ from the poor isn't going to make that much of a difference (they are already *poor,* get it?).  If you want real savings, cut the subsidies to corporations (i.e. corporate welfare).  Of course, that will never be done under a Republican gov such as Haley Barbour.  I'm showing my bias here (and will probably start some sort of flame war--not my intention), but I agree that this perpetuates a stereotype of MS that is sad to see.  Wouldn't it be great to see, instead, a story about a new education incentive program for single moms on welfare in MS or some other positive program to help those in need?   

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Invictus

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I don't consider Haley Barbour a Mississippian, except for his studiously cultivated "I sound like a pig farmer" drawl. He spent most of his adult life as a resident of Northern Virginia, maintaining his domicile in Mississippi in order to qualify for lower tax rates.

The majority of people who read this board voted for him. They knew exactly what he was going to do, because he's been saying it since the days he wrote speeches for Ronald Reagan.

But let's get used to it. Barbour will serve for 8 years, without a doubt.

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Fire Shelby

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All I can say is....GRRRRRRR....don't get me started.


People who vote AGAINST their interests discombobulate me.  And they will do it again in November, as Mississippi again goes red.




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Invictus

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Originally posted by: Fire Shelby

"All I can say is....GRRRRRRR....don't get me started.
People who vote AGAINST their interests discombobulate me.  And they will do it again in November, as Mississippi again goes red.
"


Well, lo & behold! Look who's here! Howdy, FS!

Mississippi has a long tradition of cutting off its collective nose to spite its face, doesn't it? Why should things change now?

On the bright side, I'm using the November election to play a game. Since the electoral system tells me that unless I am a GWB supporter, my vote does not count, I'm going to vote for the wackiest candidate possible to make sure that it is counted, even if it doesn't count. Then, on election night, I'm going to watch for my vote to show up on the evening news. "One vote for the Spinach Prevention Party Candidate, Ernest Glutch"...



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ram

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Originally posted by: Invictus

" Well, lo & behold! Look who's here! Howdy, FS! Mississippi has a long tradition of cutting off its collective nose to spite its face, doesn't it? Why should things change now? On the bright side, I'm using the November election to play a game. Since the electoral system tells me that unless I am a GWB supporter, my vote does not count, I'm going to vote for the wackiest candidate possible to make sure that it is counted, even if it doesn't count. Then, on election night, I'm going to watch for my vote to show up on the evening news. "One vote for the Spinach Prevention Party Candidate, Ernest Glutch"... "


To my wife's chagrin, I have been doing that for years. Here in Hattiesburg, that vote would be for Shawn O'Hara. 


And let me add my "Welcome Back!" too. Good to know FS is still around.



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Fire Shelby

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Originally posted by: Invictus

" Well, lo & behold! Look who's here! Howdy, FS! Mississippi has a long tradition of cutting off its collective nose to spite its face, doesn't it? Why should things change now? On the bright side, I'm using the November election to play a game. Since the electoral system tells me that unless I am a GWB supporter, my vote does not count, I'm going to vote for the wackiest candidate possible to make sure that it is counted, even if it doesn't count. Then, on election night, I'm going to watch for my vote to show up on the evening news. "One vote for the Spinach Prevention Party Candidate, Ernest Glutch"... "


I am quite fond of the Sloth and Indolence party candidate Utah Phillips at this moment.  LOL!--if you're going to waste a vote, why not waste it for a party that supports, well, nothing at all.


 



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usmstudent

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Originally posted by: Fire Shelby

" I am quite fond of the Sloth and Indolence party candidate Utah Phillips at this moment.  LOL!--if you're going to waste a vote, why not waste it for a party that supports, well, nothing at all.  "

Utah Phillips, huh?  Well, only if Ani will be his selection for VP!

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LVN

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I was really hoping this board would stay away from national politics.  That will be the end of us.  Yes, I voted for Haley Barbour.  And the alternative was. . . hey, when I lived in Louisiana I once had to vote for Edwin Edwards, because the alternative was unthinkable.  The bumper stickers even said "Vote for the crook. It's important."


Anyway, the problem in Mississippi is not that conservatives despise poor people.  I am a conservative.  My mother and father are conservatives.  My father is ON MEDICAID in a nursing home.  The problem in Mississippi is that people will not be realistic about taxes and what it costs to run a state.  Until they are willing to pay, and I do agree that there may be excess friendliness to corps., but how are you going to get business to even come here?  until there are realistic taxes, there are going to be cuts in places that can't stand cuts.


That being said, I understand that most of you are for Kerry.  This board is about Shelby Thames.



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truth4usm/AH

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Originally posted by: LVN

"I was really hoping this board would stay away from national politics.  That will be the end of us.  Yes, I voted for Haley Barbour.  And the alternative was. . . hey, when I lived in Louisiana I once had to vote for Edwin Edwards, because the alternative was unthinkable.  The bumper stickers even said "Vote for the crook. It's important." Anyway, the problem in Mississippi is not that conservatives despise poor people.  I am a conservative.  My mother and father are conservatives.  My father is ON MEDICAID in a nursing home.  The problem in Mississippi is that people will not be realistic about taxes and what it costs to run a state.  Until they are willing to pay, and I do agree that there may be excess friendliness to corps., but how are you going to get business to even come here?  until there are realistic taxes, there are going to be cuts in places that can't stand cuts. That being said, I understand that most of you are for Kerry.  This board is about Shelby Thames."

Actually, LVN, when I mentioned politics on the FS board, most seemed to be "for" George W. Bush.  But, you're right, this is about what's best for USM, not the national election.  Sorry to have taken us down that road...but this whole topic seems fairly OT to me.

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Phoenix

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Originally posted by: LVN

"I was really hoping this board would stay away from national politics.  That will be the end of us.  Yes, I voted for Haley Barbour.  And the alternative was. . .   I understand that most of you are for Kerry.  This board is about Shelby Thames."

You are not alone, LVN. Plenty of us are not voting for Kerry nor did we vote for Musgrove ....  And it is about Shelby Thames and his henchcrew, minions, and yes men and women, including Ken bot

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Eagle in Cairo, Egypt

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LVN - I feel you pain.  I remember your pain.  The choice was horrible.  Do you vote for the known crook who had been indicted and would be indicted again?  Or do you vote for the "former" Kluker?  Which would be worse?  I ended up voting against Duke (I still can't say that I voted for Edwards - it makes me want to puke). 

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sport

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Is this board only about Shelby Thames? Although I hated to lose the FS site, I was encouraged by the change of venue because a message board on the usm aaup site widens the opportunities for discussion in a significant way.


The G&T debacle brought the usm faculty together and created a refreshing sense of community (albeit mostly virtual) that I hoped would continue whether ST got the boot or not.


USM/Hattiesburg lacks many of the informal gathering spots on campus or campus peripheries familiar to most college town residents. Though lurking on a message board may be a sad substitute, I appreciate discovering like or not so like minded folk full of smart talk and big vision. If this isn't the place for a wide range of discussion, at least on usm/'burg/miss and higher education at large, then I don't know where it is. Do you?


 



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Angeline

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Originally posted by: LVN

"I was really hoping this board would stay away from national politics.  That will be the end of us.  Yes, I voted for Haley Barbour.  And the alternative was. . . hey, when I lived in Louisiana I once had to vote for Edwin Edwards, because the alternative was unthinkable.  The bumper stickers even said "Vote for the crook. It's important." Anyway, the problem in Mississippi is not that conservatives despise poor people.  I am a conservative.  My mother and father are conservatives.  My father is ON MEDICAID in a nursing home.  The problem in Mississippi is that people will not be realistic about taxes and what it costs to run a state.  Until they are willing to pay, and I do agree that there may be excess friendliness to corps., but how are you going to get business to even come here?  until there are realistic taxes, there are going to be cuts in places that can't stand cuts. That being said, I understand that most of you are for Kerry.  This board is about Shelby Thames."


While I agree that national politics should stay out of this board and its issues (though I can see a time or two where it is relevant), it is very clear by now that local & state politics have everything to do with giving us SFT as president, keeping him there, and working to crush USM.  So, I see no problem with giving local/state politicians hell when they deserve it. 


BTW: you can express your opinion of our governor in the Hattiesburg American today: http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/news/stories/20040613/opinion/index.html



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