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Unrest expressed in Senate

By Susannah Gregg


April 06, 2006


http://www.studentprintz.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2006/04/06/443498f786c3e



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Angeline

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Gotta love how Thames "reminds" faculty that they are lucky that they weren't fired in the aftermath of Katrina.  And who really thinks that any request by Dana Thames that reaches the provost's offcie is going to be denied as long as her father is president?  G-d help us get through one more year of these evil incompetents.

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donald

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You can bet your patootie that Baby Shelby knew which side his toast was buttered on.  He would not dare resist this.  No one would.  The Tyrant Thames--aka Tiny Thames--would blow his the staves out of his corset.  This sums it up:


 


Professor Dana Thames received a raise of $13,000. She is the daughter of president Shelby F. Thames and the chair of the department of curriculum, instruction and special education.

“The only part Dr. Thames played was that I told him what was going and we agreed that he would not be a part of it,” Grimes said. “She was requesting a raise for equity purposes because she was making substantially less than peers with similar kinds of positions.”



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Play it again Sam

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An unidentified senator proposes a vote of no confidence for Thames. This is the height of redundancy. How about a resolution in favor of tenure or perhaps one in favor of increase pay or maybe a motion to promote shared governance. The repitition is deafening.

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LeftASAP

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From the article:


"She was requesting a raise for equity purposes because she was making substantially less than peers with similar kinds of positions.”


This is strange because request for "equity" raises are usually made during annual evaluations in the spring and, if granted, go into effect the next fiscal year beginning July 1.  Why was an "equity" raise given mid-year?  Did other faculty know they could apply for mid-year "equity" raises? 



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stephen judd

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Play it again Sam wrote:


An unidentified senator proposes a vote of no confidence for Thames. This is the height of redundancy. How about a resolution in favor of tenure or perhaps one in favor of increase pay or maybe a motion to promote shared governance. The repitition is deafening.


In fact we have had resolutions along similar lines in the past. We have also sent letters that wre equally specific about specific issues, as noted.


No confidence may be repetitious -- but sometimes repetition can have an effect. The context for this potential vote has changed.


We have yet to issue a "no confidence" vote while Meredith is commissioner. Given the commissioner's express concern to the AAUP executive committee that he feels as though it would be in everyne's best interest to have a good outcome as the President leaves, and given the AAUP's agreement that this was true and that it would from its side, work to obtain that, a vote of "no confidence" from the Senate should at least send a very strong message that the "good outcome" he hopes for is in jeopordy unless he gets more involved down here and reigns in this administration.



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stephen judd

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ouch . . .  reins . . . .

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Dr. Phil

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Play it again Sam wrote:

An unidentified senator proposes a vote of no confidence for Thames. This is the height of redundancy. How about a resolution in favor of tenure or perhaps one in favor of increase pay or maybe a motion to promote shared governance. The repitition is deafening.

I believe these resolutions and this forum (Faculty Senate) have a beneficial and therapeutic effect. They allow the faculty members who are in a powerless position to vent their frustrations. They can denounce Thames and pass meaningless resolutions and feel better about themselves. Afterwards they can report these deliberations to the media and the gnashing of teeth can continue unabated.

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stephen judd

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Dr. Phil wrote:


Play it again Sam wrote: An unidentified senator proposes a vote of no confidence for Thames. This is the height of redundancy. How about a resolution in favor of tenure or perhaps one in favor of increase pay or maybe a motion to promote shared governance. The repitition is deafening. I believe these resolutions and this forum (Faculty Senate) have a beneficial and therapeutic effect. They allow the faculty members who are in a powerless position to vent their frustrations. They can denounce Thames and pass meaningless resolutions and feel better about themselves. Afterwards they can report these deliberations to the media and the gnashing of teeth can continue unabated.


Well, that is fine Dr. Phil. But these "meaningless resolutions" have had the cumulative effect of bolstering faculty resolve not to get run over. If not, we'd have had the Hanberry alcohol policy, the Hanberry faculty handbook, and any number of other idiotic things to deal with -- including, quite possibly, a four year renewal of this Presidentcy rather than aa one year one. It is true that the resolutions have not stopped faculty attrition, nor have they successfully prevented many less visible things from happening . . .  and they certainly did not prevent Frank and Gary from what happened to them. But it is a game of holding ground as long as possible and hoping to hold out longer than the administration  . . .  holding out long enough to be able to get past this and begin to repair the damage.


Clearly the faculty isn't an army able to face the administration on equal terms. The field simply isn't tipped in our favor. So I'd say think of all of these actions as mechanisms of insurgency -- except that in this insurgency the object is not to destroy the university as we try to defend it, but to preserve the university while we try to defend it. That makes this kind of thing much more comlplicated. It would have been so easy really attack this administration during SACs -- but in the eyes of many, that would have harmed the university more than an outgoing administration. It isn't easy fighting with one arm tied behind you when your opponant has no such limitation.



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USM Alum

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Stephen,


I totally disagree with the assertion that the faculty is on unequal footing with administration.  The fact is that the "University" is the faculty.  It isn't buildings, adminstrators, labs, football fields or even textbooks.  Students come to USM to be taught by faculty.


Consequently, the only limitation on faculty power is the faculty's resolve to make change.



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stephen judd

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USM Alum wrote:


Stephen, I totally disagree with the assertion that the faculty is on unequal footing with administration.  The fact is that the "University" is the faculty.  It isn't buildings, adminstrators, labs, football fields or even textbooks.  Students come to USM to be taught by faculty. Consequently, the only limitation on faculty power is the faculty's resolve to make change.


I'm speaking in terms of raw power, not moral authority or even authority over the curriculum. In my experience at USM in the last four years, I find faculty's autohrity over curriculum means only what the administration agrees with . . . otherwise we get outvoted 1 to (you name the number).


The only true power we have is to withhold our services, and that won't happen here.


 



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At good universities a vote of no confidence is the beginning of the end for a president (see Auburn, Baylor, and Harvard in the past three years). The USM faculty should continue to do the right thing which includes pointing out serious deficiencies in university governance whether or not the IHL Board understands higher education. One would have thought that some learning would have occurred from the MUW-Clyda Rent fiasco. I guess it's hard to underestimate the IHL Board.



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stephen judd

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Tabasco Lover wrote:


At good universities a vote of no confidence is the beginning of the end for a president (see Auburn, Baylor, and Harvard in the past three years). The USM faculty should continue to do the right thing which includes pointing out serious deficiencies in university governance whether or not the IHL Board understands higher education. One would have thought that some learning would have occurred from the MUW-Clyda Rent fiasco. I guess it's hard to underestimate the IHL Board.

There are many who would agree with that sentiment . . . .

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stephen judd

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From"The Top American Research Universities, An Annual Report from the Lombardi Program on measuring University Performance (August, 2002).


 


In The Lombardi Report on Research Universities, the authors liken the operations of university faculty and students to “guilds” – areas of scholarly and creative craft


 


that control faculty identification, selection, promotion, and tenure. Through this process, the guilds function as self-perpetuating communities whose quality depends on the rigor of the standards they apply to those who would become permanent members.”


 


In this sense, the “guilds” of the university function as the university’s “quality engine.” But the guilds also depend on


 


“the support and management provided by the university shell [which] serves as the organizational construct that acquires money and other resources needed by the guilds. It provides the administrative infrastructure that supports the guilds and their work, creates the connective mechanisms that link the guilds for the purposes of undergraduate education and other joint enterprises, and protects the guilds and their members from external pressures that might impair their effectiveness.”  P 4


 


“The guilds know that this hierarchy belongs primarily to the shell and does not define the authority structure of the quality engine’s academic core. While shell agents can manage money and resources, they do not directly control the content or quality of an institution’s academic work, which belongs to and is primarily supervised and managed by the faculty. The faculty, in turn, defines academic standards in cooperation and collaboration with colleagues in similar guilds through the nation.” P 5


 


 



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