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Counting the days

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The College Board today announced retired Air Force Gen. Robert H. Foglesong as the preferred candidate to assume the presidency at Mississippi State University.


Get ready for some head bustin'


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qwerty

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Here's his bio from the web. He's a PhD in engineering. I wouldn't dismiss him out of hand.

Foglesong bio

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water bowl

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did i miss his experience in higher education?

all of his post high school education at west virginia?

it will be interesting in the justification of this appointment, but i am sure he is a nice man with good intentions

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Cossack

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I hope for the sake of faculty at MSU that he turns out to be a good president. He will have a big adjustment from the culture of military command to university president. Some ex military successfully make the transition, some do not. He certainly will be able to continue the secret process. It will to interesting to hear how the MSU faculty respond to this appointment.

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dog man

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anybody that comes out of West Virginia is OK. What were his political connections to Mississippi? Does he have any Ag experiences? Does he know Thad, Trent, or Haley?

Will Mississippi State now become a military school? Mississippi A and M....Agricultural and Military.

Will the mascot be changed?

There are many questions to be asked and answered. List them if you may.

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yoyo

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Two quick thoughts.  First, the citizens will be behind this guy big time.  No chance for any anti-Foglesong faction to gain traction.  Second, this is not good for USM.  The out-of-the-box candidate from secret searching that USM will get will be a retired Justice Court Judge from nowhere, MS.

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On the other hand . . .

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A university president's primary job is that of fund raising. This guy might be ideal for that if he has a good academic vice president or provost to handle the academic side of things.

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on the other hand

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yoyo wrote:
The out-of-the-box candidate from secret searching that USM will get will be a retired Justice Court Judge from nowhere, MS.


Some of those guys have actual common sense and morals. A step up from where we are today.

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The original on the other hand . . .

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What a coincidence.  Two posters with the same name posting at the same time.

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great cheese

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This really good news!!

MSU family will support anything or body that is maroon and white.(think Coach Jackie, only after NCAA actions did they decide to fire him)

The secret search really was a secret....Where did Dr Foglesong get in the mix?

This guy cant be as bad as SFT.

War College is a great place to gain experience in higher ed.

Students today are much like soldiers

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Gloomy

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Oh woe is me. This candidate looks good. By the time they get around to us all the good ones will be taken. I fear we will draw the short straw again.

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just thinking

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Gloomy wrote:
Oh woe is me. This candidate looks good. By the time they get around to us all the good ones will be taken. I fear we will draw the short straw again.


Do they have shared goverance in the air force.

I seem to remember the joint chiefs of staff is all about shared goverance. MSU got lucky again

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Definitely not Papa Doc

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The U.S. Air Force Band's newest performing group debuted Feb. 23, when it played for the Senior NCO Academy graduation ceremony in Montgomery, Ala.


"Max Impact" has arrived and promises to bring sizzling hot sounds that cater to the musical tastes of the youngest Airmen.


Gen. Robert Foglesong, U.S. Air Forces in Europe commander and keynote speaker for the evening, was on hand to introduce the group and joined in singing the Lynyrd Skynyrd rock classic "Gimme Three Steps" for the graduating class of 05-A.



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Bye bye SFT

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Don't know a damn thing about this guy but what is on the web. In contrast to SFT, he looks like a real "red blooded American" -- the kind with some humility, organizational and people skills, and smarts (not SFT's lowlife version). If he were ours, the best part would be that he is not part of the 'Burg mafiaso. Let's see how the next 24 hours pan out with faculty and others. The process was the pits, but maybe they got a keeper... 

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Faux other hand

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The original on the other hand . . . wrote:
What a coincidence.  Two posters with the same name posting at the same time.


Duh, my bad. Sorry.

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Faux

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No, wait -- I didn't see you. We really did use the same name at the same time. Wow.

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Patti

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 Just thinking wrote: "Do they have shared goverance in the air force.".......

Just thinking,


The last time I checked, the Air force, Army, Navy and Marines don't have the term shared governance in their vocabularies.  You are given an order and you are expected to obey that order or you get in a heap of trouble.  I am a veteran of the US Army, so I understand the order bit pretty good, so is my spouse, and I have a child getting out of the Army this summer.


Shared governance in the military,  fraid not.



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Marching orders, take two

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Patti wrote:

Shared governance in the military,  fraid not.


But they DO understand morale. And not giving a different order every 24 hours. And not promoting people who can't lead.

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just thinking

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Patti wrote:
 Just thinking wrote: "Do they have shared goverance in the air force.".......Just thinking,
The last time I checked, the Air force, Army, Navy and Marines don't have the term shared governance in their vocabularies.  You are given an order and you are expected to obey that order or you get in a heap of trouble.  I am a veteran of the US Army, so I understand the order bit pretty good, so is my spouse, and I have a child getting out of the Army this summer.
Shared governance in the military,  fraid not.


Now I am more confused than before...will there be no share goverance at MSU or will the faculty give Doc his orders on s/g?

Of course I am just joshing...I really hope things work out for all of MSU and the new prez

I would not wish another Shelby situation on my worst enemy(certainly MSU is not an enemy)

This IHL selection process is really a mystery to most of us common folks

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One star

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just thinking wrote:

 Do they have shared goverance in the air force.
Frank Glamser was in the Air Force and he knows what shared governance is all about. Having a military background does not disqualify one from making sound academic decisions.

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Watching and waiting

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This kind of person seems to be what universities are "going for" now days. Texas A&M pres was the former CIA director, etc.

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Geaux Tigers

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Watching and waiting wrote:

This kind of person seems to be what universities are "going for" now days. Texas A&M pres was the former CIA director, etc.
Selecting university presidents on the basis of leadership characteristics is not new. LSU had a military general as its president back in the 60's

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Geaux Tigers

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Geaux Tigers wrote:

Selecting university presidents on the basis of leadership characteristics is not new. LSU had a military general as its president back in the 60's
General Troy Middleton.

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Watching and waiting

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And this can be a smart, successful appointment--good for the university in all sorts of ways--if the decision is carefully made.

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just thinking

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Geaux Tigers wrote:
Watching and waiting wrote:
This kind of person seems to be what universities are "going for" now days. Texas A&M pres was the former CIA director, etc.
Selecting university presidents on the basis of leadership characteristics is not new. LSU had a military general as its president back in the 60's


Does the name William D. McCain ring a bell? a/k/a Willie D., General McCain

"I promised you and education not a parking space" and part of his dream lives on today at USM

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First Ant at the Picnic

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You don't get to be a four star general unless you are very bright and you have excellent people skills. The emphasis is on leading, not bossing. At the highest levels of the military, things are very political and sophisticated. Taking care of your troops is considered to be a virtue. It looks like MSU got a very talented fellow. His two tours at Columbus (Mississippi) AFB must have left a positive impression.




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qwerty

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Geaux Tigers wrote:

Selecting university presidents on the basis of leadership characteristics is not new. LSU had a military general as its president back in the 60's


LSU sure did have a military man in charge in 1860--his name was William Tecumseh Sherman. He resigned after La. seceded--and the rest is history.

By the way--How 'bout those B-ball playing Tigers! Beat UCLA!

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Delta Dawn

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Geaux Tigers wrote:

Selecting university presidents on the basis of leadership characteristics is not new. LSU had a military general as its president back in the 60's
Please be reminded that General Dwight D. Eisenhower served as President of Columbia University from 1948-1952.

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dog man II

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dog man wrote:
anybody that comes out of West Virginia is OK. What were his political connections to Mississippi? Does he have any Ag experiences? Does he know Thad, Trent, or Haley?

Will Mississippi State now become a military school? Mississippi A and M....Agricultural and Military.

Will the mascot be changed?

There are many questions to be asked and answered. List them if you may.
The dogs will become the falcons. The military school is out of the question. The cheeze may melt. USM could be so lucky.

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Geaux Tigers

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qwerty wrote:

By the way--How 'bout those B-ball playing Tigers! Beat UCLA!
Thank you so much. See ya on Saturday night.

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