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Date: Mar 6, 2006

Military Recruiters

Date: Mar 6, 2006

Any school that bans military recruiters from campus should lose every penny of Federal money. And the military should announce that it won't defend that territory from any enemy, foreign or domestic...

Date: Mar 6, 2006

Finally there are a few decisions coming out of the Supreme Court that make sense in the context of our national character. There are a few wackos who wanted military recruiting banned, but I would venture to guess that a strong majority do not side with the wackos on this one. Maybe the SC has discovered that the American people don't want the SC creating weird laws vis a vis interpretation.

Date: Mar 6, 2006

what a bunch of trolls you all are? trying to get us up in arms about with your ridiculous redbaiting.

Date: Mar 6, 2006

I disagree that this is trolling. The second and third posters are "regulars" -- you can leave the topic alone if you want to (as I plan to do) --

Date: Mar 6, 2006

This will be a test for many of these universities. Do they stand on principle and lose money or throw in the towel? I am betting they take the money and whine. They have the freedom to reject any recruiters as they see fit so long as they are truly private entities. However, they are hooked on receiving government funds and will not be able to wean themselves away. There may be a few church related colleges that would give up the money, but not the big universities. Principles can be too costly in some instances.

Date: Mar 6, 2006

Cossack wrote:

Principles can be too costly in some instances.

It was certainly costly in the cases of Gary Stringer and Frank Glamser. But they both maintained their principles.

Date: Mar 7, 2006

What principle is it that would lead a college to ban recruiters from it's own country's military ??? How about the principle of supporting your country's military???

Date: Mar 7, 2006

Heads held high wrote:

Cossack wrote:
Principles can be too costly in some instances.
It was certainly costly in the cases of Gary Stringer and Frank Glamser. But they both maintained their principles.

I'm clearly pro Stringer and Glamser,but I don't think they did anything highly principled. If they had insisted on having their case adjudicated to the court of last appeal,that would have been a principled effort. Having said that,we all live in the real world and I probaly would have done what they did.

Date: Mar 7, 2006

Homeward wrote:

I'm clearly pro Stringer and Glamser,but I don't think they did anything highly principled. If they had insisted on having their case adjudicated to the court of last appeal,that would have been a principled effort. Having said that,we all live in the real world and I probaly would have done what they did.

Don't forget that the next step would have probably been that of facing a Kangaroo Court up in Jackson. I'm confident that either of them could have hadily won their case in a court of law, but it would have taken many years and at an unbelievable financial and emotional cost to GS and FG. The state has deep pockets. Faculty members typically have empty pockets. Clearly, family was more important than money for both of those gentlemen.

Date: Mar 7, 2006

In Glamser's case the issue of principles came up in the decision to follow up on the evidence packet that appeared under his door, rather than throw it in the trash. In Stringer's case, his willingness to pursue an investigation of academic integrity led to the crisis. Had Glamser looked the other way and had Stringer taken the easy way out, the faculty would likely be still dealing with the you-know-who's - as well as enduring a second full presidential term.

Date: Mar 7, 2006

Locksmith wrote:

In Glamser's case the issue of principles came up in the decision to follow up on the evidence packet that appeared under his door, rather than throw it in the trash. In Stringer's case, his willingness to pursue an investigation of academic integrity led to the crisis. Had Glamser looked the other way and had Stringer taken the easy way out, the faculty would likely be still dealing with the you-know-who's - as well as enduring a second full presidential term.

A rousing amen to this post!

Date: Mar 7, 2006

"Don't forget that the next step would have probably been that of facing a Kangaroo Court up in Jackson. I'm confident that either of them could have hadily won their case in a court of law, but it would have taken many years and at an unbelievable financial and emotional cost to GS and FG. The state has deep pockets. Faculty members typically have empty pockets. Clearly, family was more important than money for both of those gentlemen."

Also, don't forget that Gary had 30-40 scholars around the world working on a project that had come to a dead halt and would have been considerably slowed for the next few years--at least as long as the case was in court. Some of these scholars were junior faculty whose contribution to the project made up a substantial portion of their research component.

Date: Mar 7, 2006

troll hunter wrote:

what a bunch of trolls you all are? trying to get us up in arms about with your ridiculous redbaiting.

Since when did respect for the military become "ridiculous redbaiting?"