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Just Coasting

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Organic Chemistry & Polymer Science:
High-Impact U.S. Universities, 2000-04


Ranked by average citations per paper, among the top 100 federally funded U.S. universities that published at least 100 papers in Thomson Scientific-indexed journals of organic chemistry & polymer science between 2000 and 2004.






Rank
      University
Papers
2000-04


Citations per paper



1
Caltech 
111
18.58

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Carnegie Mellon University
182
13.68

3
MIT 
356
11.03

4
Yale University
157
9.85

5
University of Pittsburgh
186
9.72







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Polymers Slipping Downhill

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From what I just heard we don't have to worry about Polymers being at the top of anything anymore, Shelboo just sealed their future in lead. It sounds like a unanimous faculty vote in favor of one candidate for their new chair was overriden by da man because Shelboo's secretary didn't like the secretary of the guy chosen by the faculty. The guy that Gandy caved into  for is basically a joke in his own department and sounds like Gandy is as principled as our man Pood as Dean. Dome decisions being made on secretarial spats, this is a new low even when compared to those made based Gnome's petty grievences. Go to Church this Sunday, we need heaven to help us,



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Polymers R Us

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This is not how a real "wurl class"university is run. To basically install someone as vindictive and mean-spirited as the new chair of Polymer Science is such a bad move, regardless, and to have SFT meddling in his own department this way (over the objections of the faculty) is completely backwater. I hear the new chair is taking names and meting out punishments left and right. Sounds very much like what happened in the English dept. when the faculty voted for Noel Polk as new chair back in 2003, and SFT went against them. The chickens have come home to roost even in PSC, it seems.

No rest for the wicked until May 2007.

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curious

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Who is the new chair? The last one I remember was Doug Wicks, but that was a while back; I moved out of state and haven't been able to keep up that well on the goings-on at USM. Thanks!

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I have been following the psc director selection process as closely as one can who is outside the department. Marek Urban is the chair and none of the polymer professors I spoke to mentioned any dissention. Shelby's name was also not mentioned. Frankly, NO ONE wanted the position and I can't blame them. That must be an impossible job.



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curious wrote:


Who is the new chair? The last one I remember was Doug Wicks, but that was a while back; I moved out of state and haven't been able to keep up that well on the goings-on at USM. Thanks!

Urban

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CoST Curious

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What happened to the high profile candidate for their Director position that Polymers pursued before Katrina?

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Polymers R Us

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COST faculty wrote:

I have been following the psc director selection process as closely as one can who is outside the department. Marek Urban is the chair and none of the polymer professors I spoke to mentioned any dissention. Shelby's name was also not mentioned. Frankly, NO ONE wanted the position and I can't blame them. That must be an impossible job.



Completely untrue. There was another candidate who was the pick of the faculty by an overwhelming margin. Don't know who you have been talking to (unles it is Urban himself). I'm sure that they didn't mention any dissention because they are scared to death to do so...threats have been made and retribution is only beginning for those who were in the majority.

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Pardon me but

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As one who is unfamiliar with university mechanics, what power does SFT wield in polymer sci exactly? Or should I say what is the source (other than him now being the president) ?  It was my understanding that most professors over there respected him, but knew he is a complete jerk so they basically ignored him.  The grad students certainly did because he never got any good ones- and that's a fact.

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Job seeker

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The "secretary spat" scenario outlined above is puzzling, because there is a job posting on USM's HR site for an administrative assistant to the chair of Polymer Science.

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Polly Polymer

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Job seeker wrote:

The "secretary spat" scenario outlined above is puzzling, because there is a job posting on USM's HR site for an administrative assistant to the chair of Polymer Science.



Almost every professor in PolySci has their own administrative assistant. Thus, many secretaries = possibilities for many spats.

And, woe to the person who takes the job listed above! Working for the "new chair" would be a true nightmare.

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Polly Polymer

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Pardon me but wrote:

As one who is unfamiliar with university mechanics, what power does SFT wield in polymer sci exactly? Or should I say what is the source (other than him now being the president) ?  It was my understanding that most professors over there respected him, but knew he is a complete jerk so they basically ignored him.  The grad students certainly did because he never got any good ones- and that's a fact.



His power is supreme...didn't you get that memo? He already meddled in at least one other chair decision mentioned on this thread (English Dept.). What makes you think he wouldn't do it in his own dept.?



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Invictus

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Polly Polymer wrote:

His power is supreme...didn't you get that memo? He already meddled in at least one other chair decision mentioned on this thread (English Dept.). What makes you think he wouldn't do it in his own dept.?



Do faculty members in a department generally get to "meddle" with the department chair selection process? SFT is in fact still listed as a member of the Polymer Science Department, which coincidentally must have close to a one-to-one ratio between faculty & the number of undergraduate degrees it awards annually.



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Gone, gone, gone

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Invictus wrote:


Polly Polymer wrote:
His power is supreme...didn't you get that memo? He already meddled in at least one other chair decision mentioned on this thread (English Dept.). What makes you think he wouldn't do it in his own dept.?


Do faculty members in a department generally get to "meddle" with the department chair selection process? SFT is in fact still listed as a member of the Polymer Science Department, which coincidentally must have close to a one-to-one ratio between faculty & the number of undergraduate degrees it awards annually.





Boy. This is the kind of statistic that get programs put on probation and warned of possible termination by the IHL.

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2004 fact book

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Invictus wrote:


...which coincidentally must have close to a one-to-one ratio between faculty & the number of undergraduate degrees it awards annually.


PS does not look as bad with 19 faculty and 29 grads (14 BS 3 MS 12 PhD) as some other departments in the college: Math 23 faculty for 22 grads (21 BS 1 MS), Chem 18 faculty for 17 grads (15 BS 1 MS 1 PhD), Physics 8 faculty for 1 grad (1 MS), Geology 6 faculty for 6 grads (5 BS 1 MS), Geography 8 faculty for 12 grads (8 BS 4 MS), and one outside CoST Philosophy 8 faculty for 9 grads (7 BA 2 MA).


5 of 17 departments in CoST make up 79% of all grads (AoJ 76, Bio 132, CS 49, EngTech 90, & Const 77).  By the way, Construction???? what the heck is that????  Is it a quasi engineering program?


In fact, CoST has the lowest grad to fac ratio of any college (2.98), even CoAL with heavy faculty departments like music still has a 3.36 ratio (others: CoH 5.79, CoB 7.52, CoEP 9.14).


*All data from fiscal year 2004 as reported in the USM fact book.



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Little number Annie

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Poly sci doesn't offer any core courses does it? Math, chem, even philosophy offer courses to non-majors to fulfill core requirements, so the faculty-to-graduate ratio doesn't tell us that much. Credit hour production might be more telling.

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COST faculty

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Little number Annie wrote:


Poly sci doesn't offer any core courses does it? Math, chem, even philosophy offer courses to non-majors to fulfill core requirements, so the faculty-to-graduate ratio doesn't tell us that much. Credit hour production might be more telling.


Polymer has one core course, the "material world" one but enrollment is low. The polymer credit hour numbers are not bad because their undergraduates take almost exclusively polymer courses their junior and senior year and their appx 80 graduate students take 16 hrs/ semester of polymer courses, mostly research hours.


Back to the original post on this thread, what was the point?



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asdf

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COST faculty wrote:


...Back to the original post on this thread, what was the point?

I think the original poster was trying to point that the rankings from the mid 90's that Polymer, the university, and heck, even Hattiesburg, still brags about is no longer the case.

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Invictus

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asdf wrote:

COST faculty wrote:
...Back to the original post on this thread, what was the point?
I think the original poster was trying to point that the rankings from the mid 90's that Polymer, the university, and heck, even Hattiesburg, still brags about is no longer the case.




... and possibly never really was the case.



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Obviousman

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Invictus wrote:


asdf wrote: COST faculty wrote: ...Back to the original post on this thread, what was the point? I think the original poster was trying to point that the rankings from the mid 90's that Polymer, the university, and heck, even Hattiesburg, still brags about is no longer the case. ... and possibly never really was the case.

If you define a niche for yourself with only 5 peers it is quite easy to be ranked in the "Top 10"

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Who You Count

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PS does not look as bad with 19 faculty and 29 grads (14 BS 3 MS 12 PhD) as some other departments in the college: Math 23 faculty for 22 grads (21 BS 1 MS), Chem 18 faculty for 17 grads (15 BS 1 MS 1 PhD), Physics 8 faculty for 1 grad (1 MS), Geology 6 faculty for 6 grads (5 BS 1 MS), Geography 8 faculty for 12 grads (8 BS 4 MS). . .




And of the 23 math faculty, how many graduate faculty are housed at the Hattiesburg campus? How many faculty in polymer science hold instructor status? How about the other departments?

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2004 fact book

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Math had 10 instructors and Polymer had 1.

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Just Facts

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From USDM Website.  Math 2005-2006  14 graduate faculty


*ADAN-BANTE, Edith, Assistant Professor.


BELL, Lue Birdia, Instructor. 


BISHOP, Nell K., Instructor. 


*CHEN, C.S., Professor and Chair.


*CONTRERAS, Jose A., Associate Professor


*CWIKLA, Julie, Assistant Professor.


*DING, Jiu, Professor.


DUDLEY, John C., Instructor. 


FLETCHER, Janice G., Instructor


*HARRIS, John M., Assistant Professor.


*HENRY, Myron S., Professor.


*HORNOR, William E., Professor. 


HOWELL, Susan R., Instructor.


*KOLIBAL, Joseph G., Associate Professor


*LEE, Sungwook, Assistant Professor


MCDOWELL, Lida G., Instructor. 


MEAD, Lawrence R., Associate Professor of Physics and Mathematics


PETERS, Mary B., Instructor.


*PIAZZA, Barry L., Professor. 


*PYE, Wallace C., Professor. 


*ROSS, Susan, Assistant Professor. 


VISITORS


SMITH, Gaston W., Instructor.


NAQUIN, Marlene, Mathematics Lab Coordinator


*TIAN, Haiyan., Assistant Professor.


ADJUNCTS


DAVIS, B. Jan, Instructor. 


DUNN, Nancy R.., Instructor


JUNEAU, Jon, Adjunct Instructor.


SIMON, David, Adjunct Instructor.


SMITH, Robert C., Instructor. 


 



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COST Was Us

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Job seeker wrote:


The "secretary spat" scenario outlined above is puzzling, because there is a job posting on USM's HR site for an administrative assistant to the chair of Polymer Science.

My experience of working with Debbie Ballard in the past qualifies me say she is in no way a mere secretary. As Dr. Thames's assistant in the Polymer Department, she is an extension of his will. Just as thin skinned, just as judgemental and just as parochial as the man himself. Spat? no, she is merely securing her top spot in the pecking order. 

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Just Coasting wrote:


Organic Chemistry & Polymer Science

In view of the numorous mergers and consolidations of various depatments and colleges at USM over the years, allegedly to save money, how is it that Polymer Science has survived unscathed as a departmental entity unto itself? Qute a few of the other mergers and consolidations were very inappropriate. Finding an appropriate home for Polymer Science should have been a piece of cake during the various reorganizations.

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Pumpkin Pie wrote:


 In view of the numorous mergers and consolidations of various depatments and colleges at USM over the years, allegedly to save money, how is it that Polymer Science has survived unscathed as a departmental entity unto itself? Qute a few of the other mergers and consolidations were very inappropriate. Finding an appropriate home for Polymer Science should have been a piece of cake during the various reorganizations.

Polymermancentrism?

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COST Was Us wrote:


My experience of working with Debbie Ballard in the past qualifies me say she is in no way a mere secretary. As Dr. Thames's assistant in the Polymer Department, she is an extension of his will. Just as thin skinned, just as judgemental and just as parochial as the man himself. Spat? no, she is merely securing her top spot in the pecking order. 

I completely agree.  In fact, many of the draconian aspects of working in the Thames Research Group were due to Debbie, not Shelby. 

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Polymer Science Alumni

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WTF?

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Polymer Science Alumnus

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sorry, "Polymer Science Alumnus" not "Polymer Science Alumni". Don't want to reflect poorly on the language skills I learned at my Alma Mater.

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Polymer Science Alumnus wrote:


sorry, "Polymer Science Alumnus" not "Polymer Science Alumni". Don't want to reflect poorly on the language skills I learned at my Alma Mater.

You may want to consider cleaning up your language as well as your grammar.

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