Where in the World Is...Harold Doty? - USM Forum -- Message Board

Date: Feb 8, 2006

Where in the World Is...Harold Doty?

Date: Feb 8, 2006

It doesn't look like he's going to South Florida. It appears their job search has ground to a halt. With all the bs he dumped on them, I doubt that was his destiny anyway. It's a shame because he has been wanting to be at USF since he was a graduate student.

Date: Feb 8, 2006

The real shame is that he botched this deal:

Freedman Selected as Dean of the William S. Spears School of Business at OSU

STILLWATER, Okla. (Jan. 27, 2006) — Dr. Sara M. Freedman, dean and professor of management in the College of Business and Industry at Mississippi State University, has been named the 17th dean of the William S. Spears School of Business at Oklahoma State University.

Date: Feb 8, 2006

eagle downtown wrote:

It doesn't look like he's going to South Florida. It appears their job search has ground to a halt. With all the bs he dumped on them, I doubt that was his destiny anyway. It's a shame because he has been wanting to be at USF since he was a graduate student.

I thought he'd been wanting to be at USF since he was in elementary school!

Date: Feb 8, 2006

office in a loft downtown wrote:

I thought he'd been wanting to be at USF since he was in elementary school!

Yes, that's when he taught strategy to preschoolers.

Date: Feb 9, 2006

When all of Doty's insane actions began to surface on this board I asked a friend of mine to get me a copy of Doty's vita. Upon arriving at USM Doty had about 6 refereed journal articles. He was hired to be a dean with 6 articles! Since then, his USM faculty has helped add a few more through coauthorships. At least one of Doty's new articles appears to be in an in-house journal. From what I understand Doty barely had enough publications to get tenure. USM hired him as a full prof with tenure. Some of his untenured assistant professors have already outpublished him yet he will get to pass judgment on their research records. Another instance of the stupidity that rules USM.

Date: Feb 9, 2006

http://www.usm.edu/sacs/supporting_documents.html

Scroll down to "Vitas of Administrative and Academic Officers" for Doty's c.v.

Date: Feb 9, 2006

I just heard that your college is teetering on the brink of collapse. What the h#$@ is going on?

Date: Feb 9, 2006

info wrote:

http://www.usm.edu/sacs/supporting_documents.html Scroll down to "Vitas of Administrative and Academic Officers" for Doty's c.v.

He's hit some A journals in Management, however, none single authored...take away Glick and Huber and see what's left...

Date: Feb 9, 2006

Outside Observer wrote:

info wrote: http://www.usm.edu/sacs/supporting_documents.html Scroll down to "Vitas of Administrative and Academic Officers" for Doty's c.v. He's hit some A journals in Management, however, none single authored...take away Glick and Huber and see what's left...

The proof in that pudding comes from a peek at Glick's vita. His list of top shelf hits w/out Doty is expansive. If you did a "search and remove Glick" function on Doty's resume, all that would remain is the in-house hit he recently acquired. Take a look at that one --- it says "conditional acceptance." I wonder what the conditions are. I bet they're like none you have ever seen before.

Date: Feb 9, 2006

dotyoh wrote:

Outside Observer wrote: info wrote: http://www.usm.edu/sacs/supporting_documents.html Scroll down to "Vitas of Administrative and Academic Officers" for Doty's c.v. He's hit some A journals in Management, however, none single authored...take away Glick and Huber and see what's left... The proof in that pudding comes from a peek at Glick's vita. His list of top shelf hits w/out Doty is expansive. If you did a "search and remove Glick" function on Doty's resume, all that would remain is the in-house hit he recently acquired. Take a look at that one --- it says "conditional acceptance." I wonder what the conditions are. I bet they're like none you have ever seen before.

Not to defend Doty's noticeably weak vita, but to dismiss all but single authored work is not productive. Much of the important work in several disciplines comes from collaborative efforts. Many of us have worked extensively with faculty from our graduate programs, and the research streams of both parties have been enriched by those collaborations.

If your intent was to decry only Doty's output, and not multiple authoriships in general, ignore this.

Date: Feb 9, 2006

ASTONISHED wrote:

dotyoh wrote: Outside Observer wrote: info wrote: http://www.usm.edu/sacs/supporting_documents.html Scroll down to "Vitas of Administrative and Academic Officers" for Doty's c.v. He's hit some A journals in Management, however, none single authored...take away Glick and Huber and see what's left... The proof in that pudding comes from a peek at Glick's vita. His list of top shelf hits w/out Doty is expansive. If you did a "search and remove Glick" function on Doty's resume, all that would remain is the in-house hit he recently acquired. Take a look at that one --- it says "conditional acceptance." I wonder what the conditions are. I bet they're like none you have ever seen before. Not to defend Doty's noticeably weak vita, but to dismiss all but single authored work is not productive. Much of the important work in several disciplines comes from collaborative efforts. Many of us have worked extensively with faculty from our graduate programs, and the research streams of both parties have been enriched by those collaborations. If your intent was to decry only Doty's output, and not multiple authoriships in general, ignore this.

Many schools have as a requirement for full professor, at least some number of single authored publications. Wasn't Glick his major professor? or Huber? Can he perform publishable research on his own I think is a fair question, for a full professor...and especially a department head who evaluates the research of faculty!

Date: Feb 9, 2006

Outside Observer wrote:

Wasn't Glick his major professor?

DAI:

TITLE

Context, structure, and strategy: A configurational approach to organizational effectiveness
AUTHOR

Doty, Duane Harold
DEGREE

PhD
SCHOOL

THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN
DATE

1990
PAGES

174
ADVISER

Glick, William H.

Date: Feb 9, 2006

Outside Observer wrote:

...Many schools have as a requirement for full professor, at least some number of single authored publications. ...

Whenever I see a single authored research paper, the first thing that pops into my mind is to wonder what grad student got screwed out of a pub.

Date: Feb 9, 2006

manova wrote:

Outside Observer wrote: ...Many schools have as a requirement for full professor, at least some number of single authored publications. ... Whenever I see a single authored research paper, the first thing that pops into my mind is to wonder what grad student got screwed out of a pub.

That's ridiculous. Many of us don't have graduate students...Many of us don't have graduate students capable of writing publishable papers.

Date: Feb 9, 2006

Outside Observer wrote:

...Many of us don't have graduate students capable of writing publishable papers.

Then I hope you don't let them graduate.

Date: Feb 9, 2006

manova wrote:

Outside Observer wrote: ...Many of us don't have graduate students capable of writing publishable papers. Then I hope you don't let them graduate.

Many grad students are studying in graduate fields that lead to jobs in academia and therefore do not lead to expectations of publishing. Your tacky little statement got shot down and I guess you feel the need to sink with it.

Date: Feb 9, 2006

CORRECTED POST

Many grad students are NOT studying in graduate fields that lead to jobs in academia and therefore do not lead to expectations of publishing. Your tacky little statement got shot down and I guess you feel the need to sink with it.

Date: Feb 9, 2006

info wrote:

Outside Observer wrote:
Wasn't Glick his major professor?

DAI:

TITLE

Context, structure, and strategy: A configurational approach to organizational effectiveness
AUTHOR

Doty, Duane Harold
DEGREE

PhD
SCHOOL

THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT AUSTIN
DATE

1990
PAGES

174
ADVISER

Glick, William H.

Compare this to some of Ginn's doctoral students.

Date: Feb 9, 2006

manova wrote:

Outside Observer wrote:
...Many of us don't have graduate students capable of writing publishable papers.

Then I hope you don't let them graduate.

Triple word score for manova!

Date: Feb 9, 2006

manassa wrote:

CORRECTED POST
Many grad students are NOT studying in graduate fields that lead to jobs in academia and therefore do not lead to expectations of publishing. Your tacky little statement got shot down and I guess you feel the need to sink with it.

OO's original statement didn't say that the graduate students published. It said that the graduate students could write well enough to publish. I don't care what discipline you happen to be talking about, it's entirely unconscionable that a person earning a graduate degree can't write a well-reasoned & researched piece of prose. It's bad enough that high school graduates can't write. It's obscene that a person earning a master's can't write. This is one reason that in many fields a master's gets the student about the same level of employment that a high school diploma used to.

Date: Feb 9, 2006

manassa wrote:

CORRECTED POST Many grad students are NOT studying in graduate fields that lead to jobs in academia and therefore do not lead to expectations of publishing. Your tacky little statement got shot down and I guess you feel the need to sink with it.

Oh! You mean they are being trained rather than receiving a graduate education. That is what happened to universities when the vocational trade groups started to grant "degrees". Too bad few remember what the purpose of a university was.

I don't care if their job is not in academia. Graduate degrees use to carry with it the knowledge to research and advance the knowledge of the the field, even if it is done in industry (or at home).

Date: Feb 9, 2006

Invictus wrote:

manassa wrote: CORRECTED POST Many grad students are NOT studying in graduate fields that lead to jobs in academia and therefore do not lead to expectations of publishing. Your tacky little statement got shot down and I guess you feel the need to sink with it. OO's original statement didn't say that the graduate students published. It said that the graduate students could write well enough to publish. I don't care what discipline you happen to be talking about, it's entirely unconscionable that a person earning a graduate degree can't write a well-reasoned & researched piece of prose. It's bad enough that high school graduates can't write. It's obscene that a person earning a master's can't write. This is one reason that in many fields a master's gets the student about the same level of employment that a high school diploma used to.

No argument from me on that one Invictus. But writing for an academic publication is something else entirely. And not many masters levels students can, or probably even should, do that. If you're talking doctoral level...no argument at all...although I am aware of some recently approved doctoral programs where the dissertation requirement has been dropped in favor of an "applied research paper."

Date: Feb 9, 2006

Thanks Invictus, that is how I would have responded.

OO, basically, I see research as a teaching tool. I try to integrate students (even undergrads) at every step of the process from the planning of the experiment to the final write up. I hope that after working with me that they will have the ability to write a research report. As a researcher in an academic setting, two things that are very important to me are active collaborations and involving students.

I have seen profs take the results that a grad student or post doc generated and then write it up as a single author paper and relegating the trainee to the acknowledgement section. Of course, if you treat your trainee as a lab tech so that you are the sole intellectual contribution to the project, then you are justified to a single author paper, but you have also failed your student.