CoB Re-vote in 1 Hour - USM Forum -- Message Board

Date: Dec 7, 2005

CoB Re-vote in 1 Hour

Date: Dec 7, 2005

During the time this message board has been in existance I have seen posters from all but one college write under their real name. I have seen COBers post only under an assumed name. Their concerns appear to be directed exclusively to their own problems within COB. Where were they when we needed them the most? How many wrote letters to the newspapers? How many spoke up in faculty senate meetings? How many contributed to the legal defense fund? How many are members of AARP? These are only five of some questions that occurred to me but they're good ones for starters. I'm sure there are some academically savy faculty in COB but I've seen no evidence of that on this message board or in the newspapers.

Date: Dec 7, 2005

Big Void wrote:

How many are members of AARP?

A after E except after C. That's AAUP, Big Void.

Date: Dec 7, 2005

Unless, of course, Big Void intended to ask how many COBbers were members of the AARP ... or should be

Date: Dec 7, 2005

I meant AAUP. Little Void corrected my error.

Date: Dec 7, 2005

the motion passed, but there's a booby trap in there...Doty isn't in the clear yet.

Date: Dec 7, 2005

What, exactly, was passed?

Date: Dec 7, 2005

Big Void wrote:

During the time this message board has been in existance I have seen posters from all but one college write under their real name. I have seen COBers post only under an assumed name. Their concerns appear to be directed exclusively to their own problems within COB. Where were they when we needed them the most? How many wrote letters to the newspapers? How many spoke up in faculty senate meetings? How many contributed to the legal defense fund?..I'm sure there are some academically savy faculty in COB but I've seen no evidence of that on this message board or in the newspapers.

All of this chat about COB's internal affairs is interesting, but I'd like to see somebody answer Big Void's questions.

Date: Dec 7, 2005

Patiently waiting wrote:

Big Void wrote: During the time this message board has been in existance I have seen posters from all but one college write under their real name. I have seen COBers post only under an assumed name. Their concerns appear to be directed exclusively to their own problems within COB. Where were they when we needed them the most? How many wrote letters to the newspapers? How many spoke up in faculty senate meetings? How many contributed to the legal defense fund?..I'm sure there are some academically savy faculty in COB but I've seen no evidence of that on this message board or in the newspapers. All of this chat about COB's internal affairs is interesting, but I'd like to see somebody answer Big Void's questions.

If you go back and look at this board and the old one, you will see CoBers who posted under their real names. I would list some here, but don't have their permission to do so.

Also, many of you may recall a letter sent to the HA condemning Thames that was signed by a number of USM faculty. There was CoB representation there as well.

Do a little research before you start a flame war.

Date: Dec 7, 2005

And there was at least one COB prof who was a very vocal member of the PUC. What's happened to that, by the way?

Date: Dec 7, 2005

Isn't Mark Klinedinst an AAUP officer? If not now, before maybe? He has been quoted in the HA numerous times. Also, didn't the CoB Senators vote "No Confidence" every time? I know Duhon, Gunther, Green, Crockett have all spoken out at faculty senate meetings. Bill Gunther wrote a piece for the paper. Harold Doty got in a huge public war with Thames and Grimes. There is an accounting faculty member that just deposed Thames over the secrecy at The Foundation, and he has filed innumerable FOIA requests, causing SFT lots of headaches. The former fundraiser for the college is suing USM and will reveal loads of bad info on SFT.

Date: Dec 7, 2005

The Graduate Programs Committee met December 7, 2005 and passed two motions unanimously. The motions are:

1. To approve a revised graduate admissions policy. Stan Clark will send a description of the policy.

2. A multipart proposal which:

a. Rescinded the vote of November 30, 2005 on course modifications

to MBA500, MBA511, MBA520, MBA550, MBA610 and MKT635.

b. Withdrew MBA 610 and MKT 635 from consideration for online

delivery and to not reconsider them during the 2005-2006 academic year.

c. Rescinded any previous motions/votes supporting online programs,

hybrid programs and/or digital programs in the graduate program.

d. Approved the proposed course modifications involving an

on-line/digital format (see attached proposals):

i. MBA 500

ii. MBA 511

iii. MBA 520

iv. MBA 530

v. MBA 550

vi. MBA 570

The Committee will put motions 1, 2c and 2d forward at the faculty meeting to be held Friday, 2 PM on December 9, 2005.

Respectfully,

Laurie Babin

Co-chair, Graduate Programs Committee

Date: Dec 7, 2005

Doesn't the Faculty Senate have a scheduled meeting at 2 pm on Fridat, Dec. 9?

Date: Dec 7, 2005

My thanks to "joright," "LVN," and "I will" for drawing my attention to COB's positive participation.

Date: Dec 7, 2005

The COB faculty do like to whine as to how beat up they are. While acknnowledging their good involvement already noted on this thread, the fact remains that they rarely stand up for themselves in a public way, and they have little involvement in the defense of other parts of the university. If they feel so put upon, perhaps someone should speak up. They might even consider membership in the USM AAUP chapter. It's easy to identify faculty who have been critical of the administration in the arts, liberal arts, health, education and science. How many can you name in business?