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Jackson Lobby Guy

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papillon wrote:
Billy The Kid wrote:
Bud has brought home a lot of bacon for USM-H. USM-GC suffered for years because of his actions. He was charged with protecting the Hattiesburg business community and USM-H, keeping growth to a minimum at the coast campus, and doing the back room deals for AKL, HF, and SFT.
And wasn't Bud Ginn their first choice to become Associate Provost at USM-GC after Malone stepped down as "Chief Operating Officer"?  Can anyone confirm?  Why would they do that?  To make sure growth of USM-GC is "controlled"?   
Who is the present lobbyist for USM?

Maybe this question should be reworded. It could be misinterpreted to mean that the USM lobbyist is giving presents.

What I want to know is who currently does the lobbying for USM?


The Secretary of State lists the following lobbyists for USM for 2005: Clyde N. Ginn, Darrell "Jay" Grimes, Paul Richard Lambert, Shelby F. Thames, and Terrell Tisdale.

This info is available on the Secretary of States' website. Reports filed by lobbyists are available along with their compensation, a lists of expenditures, and other info.

It would be interesting if someone took a good "investigative look" at this. I am sure this probably meets the letter of the law, but.......

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Jackson Lobby Guy wrote:


Need To Know wrote:

papillon wrote:
Billy The Kid wrote:
Bud has brought home a lot of bacon for USM-H. USM-GC suffered for years because of his actions. He was charged with protecting the Hattiesburg business community and USM-H, keeping growth to a minimum at the coast campus, and doing the back room deals for AKL, HF, and SFT.
And wasn't Bud Ginn their first choice to become Associate Provost at USM-GC after Malone stepped down as "Chief Operating Officer"?  Can anyone confirm?  Why would they do that?  To make sure growth of USM-GC is "controlled"?   
Who is the present lobbyist for USM?

Maybe this question should be reworded. It could be misinterpreted to mean that the USM lobbyist is giving presents.

What I want to know is who currently does the lobbying for USM?
The Secretary of State lists the following lobbyists for USM for 2005: Clyde N. Ginn, Darrell "Jay" Grimes, Paul Richard Lambert, Shelby F. Thames, and Terrell Tisdale.

This info is available on the Secretary of States' website. Reports filed by lobbyists are available along with their compensation, a lists of expenditures, and other info.

It would be interesting if someone took a good "investigative look" at this. I am sure this probably meets the letter of the law, but.......


Thanks, Jackson Lobby Guy.

I went to the Sec. of State webpage. Very interesting.

I do not have time to investigate. Someone needs to.

I found it amusing that Ginn took legislators to an Itialian resturant (Mafia) and spent the same amount on a meal for each don.

Look at it. Investigate. Report....If USM spent only what was reproted, it is no wonder that we are in the shape that we are in.



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Papillion:


Budd Ginn's was one of the first names bandied about when the associate Coast provost position came open, earlier this year.  


 



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stephen judd

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Coast Watcher wrote:


  Papillion: Budd Ginn's was one of the first names bandied about when the associate Coast provost position came open, earlier this year.    


See, this is where I get confused.


Or maybe I'm confused about why THEY seem confused.


What qualifies Bud Ginn to even be considered for a Provost position? Has he ever been a Dean? Has he ever chaired a department? Has he ever has a long-term professional career as an academic?


If he has -- he's qualified.


If not - he isn't. Case closed.


Provosts MUST be academics -- although their skill set cannot be limited to academic skills or qualifications. But as Presidents are increasingly the public face of the university, the money people, etc., that definition of the qualifications of a Provost in relationship to the area they administer needs to be REALLY clear.


 



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stephen judd

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or associate provosts  . . . since associates are not only in the academic chain of command but also often move on to become provosts . . . .


Sheesh . . .



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ELR Connection

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stephen judd wrote:

Coast Watcher wrote:
  Papillion: Budd Ginn's was one of the first names bandied about when the associate Coast provost position came open, earlier this year.    

See, this is where I get confused.
Or maybe I'm confused about why THEY seem confused.
What qualifies Bud Ginn to even be considered for a Provost position? Has he ever been a Dean? Has he ever chaired a department? Has he ever has a long-term professional career as an academic?
If he has -- he's qualified.
If not - he isn't. Case closed.
Provosts MUST be academics -- although their skill set cannot be limited to academic skills or qualifications. But as Presidents are increasingly the public face of the university, the money people, etc., that definition of the qualifications of a Provost in relationship to the area they administer needs to be REALLY clear.
 


Bud has served as a VP for our institution, Dean of CE, and a longtime graduate faculty member in ELR. This was before his "retirement".

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stephen judd wrote:


Coast Watcher wrote:   Papillion: Budd Ginn's was one of the first names bandied about when the associate Coast provost position came open, earlier this year.     See, this is where I get confused. Or maybe I'm confused about why THEY seem confused. What qualifies Bud Ginn to even be considered for a Provost position? Has he ever been a Dean? Has he ever chaired a department? Has he ever has a long-term professional career as an academic? If he has -- he's qualified. If not - he isn't. Case closed. Provosts MUST be academics -- although their skill set cannot be limited to academic skills or qualifications. But as Presidents are increasingly the public face of the university, the money people, etc., that definition of the qualifications of a Provost in relationship to the area they administer needs to be REALLY clear.  



The current Associate Provost for the Coast, Pat Joachim, has none of the qualifications Dr. Judd prescribes. The two people who held positions relatively equivalent to hers actually did have such qualifications: Jim Williams, the USM-GC VP, who had been chancellor of Auburn University, Montgomery, and Joe Hill, the USM-GC Academic Dean, who had been a Dean at Auburn Montgomery. 


The sacking of these two qualified persons and their belated replacement by someone whose qualifications are slender at best make Dr. Judd's comment seem a trifle disingenuous.


 


 


 



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ELR Connection wrote:


stephen judd wrote: Coast Watcher wrote:   Papillion: Budd Ginn's was one of the first names bandied about when the associate Coast provost position came open, earlier this year.     See, this is where I get confused. Or maybe I'm confused about why THEY seem confused. What qualifies Bud Ginn to even be considered for a Provost position? Has he ever been a Dean? Has he ever chaired a department? Has he ever has a long-term professional career as an academic? If he has -- he's qualified. If not - he isn't. Case closed. Provosts MUST be academics -- although their skill set cannot be limited to academic skills or qualifications. But as Presidents are increasingly the public face of the university, the money people, etc., that definition of the qualifications of a Provost in relationship to the area they administer needs to be REALLY clear.   Bud has served as a VP for our institution, Dean of CE, and a longtime graduate faculty member in ELR. This was before his "retirement".


Thanks ELR Connection. Sounds qualified on paper. I didn't know this about his background: hence my raising the issue as a hypothetical.


Coast Watcher, I'm not sure what you mean by "disingenuous" since I'm not defending Ms. Joachim  . . .



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stephen judd wrote:

ELR Connection wrote:
stephen judd wrote: Coast Watcher wrote:   Papillion: Budd Ginn's was one of the first names bandied about when the associate Coast provost position came open, earlier this year.     See, this is where I get confused. Or maybe I'm confused about why THEY seem confused. What qualifies Bud Ginn to even be considered for a Provost position? Has he ever been a Dean? Has he ever chaired a department? Has he ever has a long-term professional career as an academic? If he has -- he's qualified. If not - he isn't. Case closed. Provosts MUST be academics -- although their skill set cannot be limited to academic skills or qualifications. But as Presidents are increasingly the public face of the university, the money people, etc., that definition of the qualifications of a Provost in relationship to the area they administer needs to be REALLY clear.   Bud has served as a VP for our institution, Dean of CE, and a longtime graduate faculty member in ELR. This was before his "retirement".

Thanks ELR Connection. Sounds qualified on paper. I didn't know this about his background: hence my raising the issue as a hypothetical.
Coast Watcher, I'm not sure what you mean by "disingenuous" since I'm not defending Ms. Joachim  . . .


You may see Bud Ginn as the Interim President of USM if things go well. Do not think it could not happen. The interim period may be much longer than you will expect. SFT may leave a little early to reward BG for his long and faithful service.

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stephen judd wrote:





ELR Connection wrote: Bud has served as a VP for our institution, Dean of CE, and a longtime graduate faculty member in ELR. This was before his "retirement".


Thanks ELR Connection. Sounds qualified on paper. 




A quick ERIC search shows that Dr. Ginn's 30 year professorial career is quite undistinguished (this is an understatement). ELR-Connection-Can you explain how he earned tenure, much less the rank of Full Professor and doctoral dissertation directorship status, with this record of scholarship? (He was director of a dissertation listed on your most recent graduation program, so he must still be an active member of your department.) Is this scholarly track record typical for your ELR department at USM? Is it typical for full professors in your discipline at other research institutions? Is it typical for other academic VPs and Deans?

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Coast Watcher wrote:


stephen judd wrote: Coast Watcher wrote:   Papillion: Budd Ginn's was one of the first names bandied about when the associate Coast provost position came open, earlier this year.     See, this is where I get confused. Or maybe I'm confused about why THEY seem confused. What qualifies Bud Ginn to even be considered for a Provost position? Has he ever been a Dean? Has he ever chaired a department? Has he ever has a long-term professional career as an academic? If he has -- he's qualified. If not - he isn't. Case closed. Provosts MUST be academics -- although their skill set cannot be limited to academic skills or qualifications. But as Presidents are increasingly the public face of the university, the money people, etc., that definition of the qualifications of a Provost in relationship to the area they administer needs to be REALLY clear.   The current Associate Provost for the Coast, Pat Joachim, has none of the qualifications Dr. Judd prescribes. The two people who held positions relatively equivalent to hers actually did have such qualifications: Jim Williams, the USM-GC VP, who had been chancellor of Auburn University, Montgomery, and Joe Hill, the USM-GC Academic Dean, who had been a Dean at Auburn Montgomery.  The sacking of these two qualified persons and their belated replacement by someone whose qualifications are slender at best make Dr. Judd's comment seem a trifle disingenuous.      

What Tiny Thames did to Jim Williams rivals what they did to Fleming.  He was a great leader and had advanced USM on the Coast.  SFT couldn't stand it.  Williams would not do his bidding.  But, lo, they found Grimes.  Now there's a losing excuse for a leader!

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I just want to add a "what he said" to the poster "Donald" above.

I was a USM-GC faculty member when Jim Williams was there. He was outstanding. When budgets began to get tight in 1999-2000, he convened a meeting of the faculty, presented the budget on overhead slides, showed us where there was room to cut, and where there were fixed and salary costs. We all left the meeting unhappy that our budget was shrinking, but also confident in the knowledge that the campus administration was doing the best with a difficult situation.

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ELR Connection

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Full Professional Administrator wrote:


stephen judd wrote:


ELR Connection wrote: Bud has served as a VP for our institution, Dean of CE, and a longtime graduate faculty member in ELR. This was before his "retirement".
Thanks ELR Connection. Sounds qualified on paper. 

A quick ERIC search shows that Dr. Ginn's 30 year professorial career is quite undistinguished (this is an understatement). ELR-Connection-Can you explain how he earned tenure, much less the rank of Full Professor and doctoral dissertation directorship status, with this record of scholarship? (He was director of a dissertation listed on your most recent graduation program, so he must still be an active member of your department.) Is this scholarly track record typical for your ELR department at USM? Is it typical for full professors in your discipline at other research institutions? Is it typical for other academic VPs and Deans?


Times were very different back in the days when Bud Ginn earned tenure. It was in the McCain era. Most everyone that served seven years on the the faculty was awarded tenure at that point.

Bud retired from his vice president's position around 2000 or 2001. At that time he held a rank of Associate Professor in the ELR Department. If he has been promosted to Full Professor after his retirement, someone else needs to let us all know how that has been accomplished.

The ELR Deparment has has some very distinguished faculty members in the past. There have been retirements and persons moving to other institutions. I don't think anyone presently associated with the department can say that it is as strong as it was in the 70's, 80's, and 90's. When you lose faculty members like Gupton, Bedenbaugh, Southerland, Anderson, Leonard, Purivs, Knight, and numerous others, it is hard to maintain the status the department had achieved. If was once one of the stronger Ed. Admin. departments in the South and the best in the state.

Ginn was not initially a faculty member in ELR. He worked in the old Foundatins Department under Conrad Welker supervising Student Teachers.

He has never been full-time in the ELR department because he held numerous adminstrative positions in the Lucas, Fleming, and Thames.

I am sure there must be someone, somewhere, that knows exactly what his present relationship with ELR is. It may be Bud. There may not be anyone else that knows.


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Richard Kazelskis might know.

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ELR Connection

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nextstateover wrote:

Richard Kazelskis might know.

He might know but RK was never in the elite group of those faculty members in Ed. Adm. RK was in Educational Research, this was very dfferent from the Ed. Adm group.

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nextstateover wrote:

Richard Kazelskis might know.

Kazelskis. Was he not known to be an open SFT supporter and defender? So whatever he knows about SFT's right-hand man might be slanted? Again, it might not.

Approval to direct doctoral dissertations, at one time, came from the Graduate Council. Departments had to submit names and credentials of faculty members to the GC for approval. The GC certainly keeps records of these approvals. How many doctoral dissertations did he direct?

Are there not other committee members that work with the person that directs the dissertation. Was an earlier poster implying that Ginn was not qualified to direct dissertations? How long has he been doing this? Who are some of his esteemed graduates? Are they all from the coast?

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ELR Connection wrote:


Full Professional Administrator wrote:

stephen judd wrote:


ELR Connection wrote: Bud has served as a VP for our institution, Dean of CE, and a longtime graduate faculty member in ELR. This was before his "retirement".
Thanks ELR Connection. Sounds qualified on paper. 

A quick ERIC search shows that Dr. Ginn's 30 year professorial career is quite undistinguished (this is an understatement). ELR-Connection-Can you explain how he earned tenure, much less the rank of Full Professor and doctoral dissertation directorship status, with this record of scholarship? (He was director of a dissertation listed on your most recent graduation program, so he must still be an active member of your department.) Is this scholarly track record typical for your ELR department at USM? Is it typical for full professors in your discipline at other research institutions? Is it typical for other academic VPs and Deans?
Times were very different back in the days when Bud Ginn earned tenure. It was in the McCain era. Most everyone that served seven years on the the faculty was awarded tenure at that point.

Bud retired from his vice president's position around 2000 or 2001. At that time he held a rank of Associate Professor in the ELR Department. If he has been promosted to Full Professor after his retirement, someone else needs to let us all know how that has been accomplished.

The ELR Deparment has has some very distinguished faculty members in the past. There have been retirements and persons moving to other institutions. I don't think anyone presently associated with the department can say that it is as strong as it was in the 70's, 80's, and 90's. When you lose faculty members like Gupton, Bedenbaugh, Southerland, Anderson, Leonard, Purivs, Knight, and numerous others, it is hard to maintain the status the department had achieved. If was once one of the stronger Ed. Admin. departments in the South and the best in the state.

Ginn was not initially a faculty member in ELR. He worked in the old Foundatins Department under Conrad Welker supervising Student Teachers.

He has never been full-time in the ELR department because he held numerous adminstrative positions in the Lucas, Fleming, and Thames.

I am sure there must be someone, somewhere, that knows exactly what his present relationship with ELR is. It may be Bud. There may not be anyone else that knows.


I know that there are excellent faculty members presently in the ELR department. I do not know any of the faculty members that ELR Connection mentioned. I am sure they were excellent. I cannot compare our present faculty to those of the past. As a practicing school administrator, I am proud to be a USM graduate.

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stephen judd wrote:

or associate provosts  . . . since associates are not only in the academic chain of command but also often move on to become provosts . . . .
Sheesh . . .


The Associate Provost on the Coast is on a two year appointment. Therefore, she will be leaving shortly after SFT leaves, if he leaves in May of 07. Will SFT and Bud Ginn select a replacement for her before the new president arrives?

There are some posters on this board that seem to think that there is a conspiracy to keep the campus on the coast from growing. Was the present Associate Provost appointed and given the charge to keep the status quo on the coast?

Katrina set things back a long way on the coast. How long wil it before there is real progress in meeting the educational needs of the coast?

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Encyc Briticanna wrote:


How long wil it before there is real progress in meeting the educational needs of the coast?




Educational needs for the coast are being met in the way that educational needs are being met for Taylorsville, Brookhaven, West Point, etc. There are public universities in Hattiesburg, Natchez, Jackson, Oxford, Starkville, Itta Bena, Columbus, and Cleveland that offer a full range of courses and degrees. USM's Gulf Park campus offered students the opportunity to attend college close to home, yet that wasn't good enough...the course offerings weren't at "good times" for military/casino/other working students. There has to come a point at which USM quits pandering to all of these interests and offers courses and degrees at the coast. Plenty of USM-Hattiesburg students work (even full time) and still find time to attend classes. Why are we treating the coast students like they are special? They're not special. Just put everything online and tell them to log on.

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Recent Grad wrote:


ELR Connection wrote:

Full Professional Administrator wrote:

stephen judd wrote:


ELR Connection wrote: Bud has served as a VP for our institution, Dean of CE, and a longtime graduate faculty member in ELR. This was before his "retirement".
Thanks ELR Connection. Sounds qualified on paper. 

A quick ERIC search shows that Dr. Ginn's 30 year professorial career is quite undistinguished (this is an understatement). ELR-Connection-Can you explain how he earned tenure, much less the rank of Full Professor and doctoral dissertation directorship status, with this record of scholarship? (He was director of a dissertation listed on your most recent graduation program, so he must still be an active member of your department.) Is this scholarly track record typical for your ELR department at USM? Is it typical for full professors in your discipline at other research institutions? Is it typical for other academic VPs and Deans?
Times were very different back in the days when Bud Ginn earned tenure. It was in the McCain era. Most everyone that served seven years on the the faculty was awarded tenure at that point.

Bud retired from his vice president's position around 2000 or 2001. At that time he held a rank of Associate Professor in the ELR Department. If he has been promosted to Full Professor after his retirement, someone else needs to let us all know how that has been accomplished.

The ELR Deparment has has some very distinguished faculty members in the past. There have been retirements and persons moving to other institutions. I don't think anyone presently associated with the department can say that it is as strong as it was in the 70's, 80's, and 90's. When you lose faculty members like Gupton, Bedenbaugh, Southerland, Anderson, Leonard, Purivs, Knight, and numerous others, it is hard to maintain the status the department had achieved. If was once one of the stronger Ed. Admin. departments in the South and the best in the state.

Ginn was not initially a faculty member in ELR. He worked in the old Foundatins Department under Conrad Welker supervising Student Teachers.

He has never been full-time in the ELR department because he held numerous adminstrative positions in the Lucas, Fleming, and Thames.

I am sure there must be someone, somewhere, that knows exactly what his present relationship with ELR is. It may be Bud. There may not be anyone else that knows.

I know that there are excellent faculty members presently in the ELR department. I do not know any of the faculty members that ELR Connection mentioned. I am sure they were excellent. I cannot compare our present faculty to those of the past. As a practicing school administrator, I am proud to be a USM graduate.


I think we should take J B on the Boyou's advice and stop this thread. It's time to move on. If Ginn had the power that some believe that he has USM would not be in the shape that it in. Or, maybe it has been his lack of lobbying skills that has put us in the shape we are in.

So, let this be the last post, pleeeeeze.

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Jumba Liar wrote:


Recent Grad wrote:

ELR Connection wrote:

Full Professional Administrator wrote:

stephen judd wrote:


ELR Connection wrote: Bud has served as a VP for our institution, Dean of CE, and a longtime graduate faculty member in ELR. This was before his "retirement".
Thanks ELR Connection. Sounds qualified on paper. 

A quick ERIC search shows that Dr. Ginn's 30 year professorial career is quite undistinguished (this is an understatement). ELR-Connection-Can you explain how he earned tenure, much less the rank of Full Professor and doctoral dissertation directorship status, with this record of scholarship? (He was director of a dissertation listed on your most recent graduation program, so he must still be an active member of your department.) Is this scholarly track record typical for your ELR department at USM? Is it typical for full professors in your discipline at other research institutions? Is it typical for other academic VPs and Deans?
Times were very different back in the days when Bud Ginn earned tenure. It was in the McCain era. Most everyone that served seven years on the the faculty was awarded tenure at that point.

Bud retired from his vice president's position around 2000 or 2001. At that time he held a rank of Associate Professor in the ELR Department. If he has been promosted to Full Professor after his retirement, someone else needs to let us all know how that has been accomplished.

The ELR Deparment has has some very distinguished faculty members in the past. There have been retirements and persons moving to other institutions. I don't think anyone presently associated with the department can say that it is as strong as it was in the 70's, 80's, and 90's. When you lose faculty members like Gupton, Bedenbaugh, Southerland, Anderson, Leonard, Purivs, Knight, and numerous others, it is hard to maintain the status the department had achieved. If was once one of the stronger Ed. Admin. departments in the South and the best in the state.

Ginn was not initially a faculty member in ELR. He worked in the old Foundatins Department under Conrad Welker supervising Student Teachers.

He has never been full-time in the ELR department because he held numerous adminstrative positions in the Lucas, Fleming, and Thames.

I am sure there must be someone, somewhere, that knows exactly what his present relationship with ELR is. It may be Bud. There may not be anyone else that knows.

I know that there are excellent faculty members presently in the ELR department. I do not know any of the faculty members that ELR Connection mentioned. I am sure they were excellent. I cannot compare our present faculty to those of the past. As a practicing school administrator, I am proud to be a USM graduate.
I think we should take J B on the Boyou's advice and stop this thread. It's time to move on. If Ginn had the power that some believe that he has USM would not be in the shape that it in. Or, maybe it has been his lack of lobbying skills that has put us in the shape we are in.

So, let this be the last post, pleeeeeze.


Jumba Liar, Uncle Bud and me thanks you.

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Papillion:
Budd Ginn's was one of the first names bandied about when the associate Coast provost position came open, earlier this year.  
 


Who were the other names? If Bud is so close to SFT why was he not selected? How is the person that was selected doing in the role? It would have been difficult for anyone after Katrina.

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Need To Know wrote:


Coast Watcher wrote:
 
Papillion:
Budd Ginn's was one of the first names bandied about when the associate Coast provost position came open, earlier this year.  
 
Who were the other names? If Bud is so close to SFT why was he not selected? How is the person that was selected doing in the role? It would have been difficult for anyone after Katrina.


There is no way Bud could have withstood the wrath of a very strong female legislator from the coast. SFT knew that he could not put Bud in the position, so SFT let Bud put one of his people in the position. Good arrangement. Same result.

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coast shrimper wrote:


Need To Know wrote:

Coast Watcher wrote:
 
Papillion:
Budd Ginn's was one of the first names bandied about when the associate Coast provost position came open, earlier this year.  
 
Who were the other names? If Bud is so close to SFT why was he not selected? How is the person that was selected doing in the role? It would have been difficult for anyone after Katrina.
There is no way Bud could have withstood the wrath of a very strong female legislator from the coast. SFT knew that he could not put Bud in the position, so SFT let Bud put one of his people in the position. Good arrangement. Same result.


is somebody pumping this thread? does somebody have a bone to pick with Ginn?

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coast shrimper wrote:


Need To Know wrote:

Coast Watcher wrote:
 
Papillion:
Budd Ginn's was one of the first names bandied about when the associate Coast provost position came open, earlier this year.  
 
Who were the other names? If Bud is so close to SFT why was he not selected? How is the person that was selected doing in the role? It would have been difficult for anyone after Katrina.
There is no way Bud could have withstood the wrath of a very strong female legislator from the coast. SFT knew that he could not put Bud in the position, so SFT let Bud put one of his people in the position. Good arrangement. Same result.


I have seen the female legislator from the coast when she was extreeeeeeeemely upset with Bud over his backroom actions in Jackson. It was USM's strategy to support the coast with public statements and lobby against coast expansion with their friends in Jackson. In Jackson, we all knew that Bud, AKL, and SFT sang different songs, depending on who they were talking to.

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I see in recent press reports that the name of Frances Lucas is being floated as a potential candidate for the Mississippi State presidency. Is this the first step in seeing how much support there is out there for her serving as a president of a state institution?

Her first and obvious response, if there should be one, will probably be that she is happy where she is.

There has to be a purpose in the floating of her name. Persons that want certain things to happen, such as FL being appointed to the presidency of USM, will not miss an oportunity to show that she is excellent presidential timber.

And remember, even if she ends up at USM, it would be such a great improvement.

Did AKL have a plan for his daughter? Is that why he has sat on the sidelines and let the things that he built come tumbling down?



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God bless you each and every one.

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need to know wrote:

I see in recent press reports that the name of Frances Lucas is being floated as a potential candidate for the Mississippi State presidency. Is this the first step in seeing how much support there is out there for her serving as a president of a state institution?

Her first and obvious response, if there should be one, will probably be that she is happy where she is.

There has to be a purpose in the floating of her name. Persons that want certain things to happen, such as FL being appointed to the presidency of USM, will not miss an oportunity to show that she is excellent presidential timber.

And remember, even if she ends up at USM, it would be such a great improvement.

Did AKL have a plan for his daughter? Is that why he has sat on the sidelines and let the things that he built come tumbling down?



I didn't do it.

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jamestown guru wrote:


need to know wrote:
I see in recent press reports that the name of Frances Lucas is being floated as a potential candidate for the Mississippi State presidency. Is this the first step in seeing how much support there is out there for her serving as a president of a state institution?

Her first and obvious response, if there should be one, will probably be that she is happy where she is.

There has to be a purpose in the floating of her name. Persons that want certain things to happen, such as FL being appointed to the presidency of USM, will not miss an oportunity to suhow that she is excellent presidentia l timber.

And remember, even if she ends up at USM, it would be such a great improvement.

Did AKL have a plan for his daughter? Is that why he has sat on the sidelines and let the things that he built come tumbling down?


I didn't do it.


Uncle Bud said he didn't do it either. Uncle Bud said they just got somebody that owed them to do it.

Cuzzin Aubrey has taken care of his little girl. He said, "it's best to sometimes best to just keep your mouth shut." Whatever that means?

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