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Date: Jul 30, 2005

IDV Program

Date: Jul 31, 2005

No. He and IDV are fully in Political science now. IDV is being remade as an interdisciplinary social science degree. 2 new hires have solid International relations PhDs.

Date: Aug 1, 2005

I must say that, Nagashpour (sp??) included, there is only one ED/IDV prof who is respected in the CoB, and that is Mark Miller. MM is apparently the only one who has a clue about what real academics is about (or at least the only one who has ever let on that he knows what it's about).

Returning the ED/IDV program to the CoB would likely result in [academic] bloodshed. Metaphor alert on high.

Date: Aug 1, 2005

Doubting Thomas wrote:

I must say that, Nagashpour (sp??) included, there is only one ED/IDV prof who is respected in the CoB, and that is Mark Miller. MM is apparently the only one who has a clue about what real academics is about (or at least the only one who has ever let on that he knows what it's about). Returning the ED/IDV program to the CoB would likely result in [academic] bloodshed. Metaphor alert on high.

I don't know if you saw this, DT, but another business school faculty has left COB to join the IDV program. John Carr from management is there with Nagspour now. Just scroll down the page that shows Nagspour at the top and you will find Carr as an IDV faculty now.

Date: Aug 1, 2005

lo wrote:

Doubting Thomas wrote: I must say that, Nagashpour (sp??) included, there is only one ED/IDV prof who is respected in the CoB, and that is Mark Miller. MM is apparently the only one who has a clue about what real academics is about (or at least the only one who has ever let on that he knows what it's about). Returning the ED/IDV program to the CoB would likely result in [academic] bloodshed. Metaphor alert on high. I don't know if you saw this, DT, but another business school faculty has left COB to join the IDV program. John Carr from management is there with Nagspour now. Just scroll down the page that shows Nagspour at the top and you will find Carr as an IDV faculty now.

Really? I assumed this was just another example of economic development playing "loosey goosey" with the details. Don't know if this is true of JC, but I believe that serving on a student committee entitles one to the prestigious website title. Otherwise, there are some surprising "faculty" in that program. IIRC, this extensive list of IDV faculty appeared soon after the department was criticized for only having a couple of "real" faculty members - right about the time of the infamous ad but before the controversial brochures.

Date: Aug 1, 2005

lo wrote:

Doubting Thomas wrote:
I must say that, Nagashpour (sp??) included, there is only one ED/IDV prof who is respected in the CoB, and that is Mark Miller. MM is apparently the only one who has a clue about what real academics is about (or at least the only one who has ever let on that he knows what it's about). Returning the ED/IDV program to the CoB would likely result in [academic] bloodshed. Metaphor alert on high.
I don't know if you saw this, DT, but another business school faculty has left COB to join the IDV program. John Carr from management is there with Nagspour now. Just scroll down the page that shows Nagspour at the top and you will find Carr as an IDV faculty now.

I was not aware of that fact, but it doesn't surprise me, if true. Carr is heavy into grant-related work and is a self-styled entrepreneurship guru. However, Doty brought in a real entrepreneurship prof who supplanted Carr's hold on this area in the management department.

Date: Aug 1, 2005

Doubting Thomas wrote:

lo wrote: Doubting Thomas wrote: I must say that, Nagashpour (sp??) included, there is only one ED/IDV prof who is respected in the CoB, and that is Mark Miller. MM is apparently the only one who has a clue about what real academics is about (or at least the only one who has ever let on that he knows what it's about). Returning the ED/IDV program to the CoB would likely result in [academic] bloodshed. Metaphor alert on high. I don't know if you saw this, DT, but another business school faculty has left COB to join the IDV program. John Carr from management is there with Nagspour now. Just scroll down the page that shows Nagspour at the top and you will find Carr as an IDV faculty now. I was not aware of that fact, but it doesn't surprise me, if true. Carr is heavy into grant-related work and is a self-styled entrepreneurship guru. However, Doty brought in a real entrepreneurship prof who supplanted Carr's hold on this area in the management department.

David Butler, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
International Development Ph.D. Program
Department of Economic Development
The University of Southern Mississippi
730 East Beach Boulevard
Long Beach MS 39560
Phone: 601.266.4735
Fax: 601.266.6219
E-mail: David.Butler@usm.edu
Dr. Butler's CV

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Jon Carr, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor, Department of Management
E-mail: Jon.Carr@usm.edu

This ordering is from their website. Listing right after Butler indicates faculty I would think.

Date: Aug 2, 2005

When ED spun out of the College of Business, wasn't it split into two groups that went separately into CoAL and CoST? At that point, wasn't it set up so that two assistant profs ran its graduate programs from two different colleges? David Butler directed the IDV PhD program in CoAL and Judson Edwards (an IDV graduate) directed the Executive Masters in Economic Development program in CoST? Now, Shadad Naghshpour has replaced Butler and that puts him in the department of political science and international in CoAL, doesn't it? The third leg of the old ED stool is Cyndi Gaudet, who directs the soon to be approved PhD in workforce development, which used to be a concentration in IDV. Ken Malone is still chair of ED in CoST, the department that Mark Miller, Edwards, and Gaudet seem to officially belong in. Is Malone taking a more active role in the department now that he is no longer juggling the COO position? All these folks (and many more) are listed on the IDV website in CoAL as faculty. Is the new stuff going on in CoST considered more respectable than the old IDV program? Will the new direction of the IDV program as an "interdisciplinary social science" program with Butler replaced by Nagshpour increase its credibility? Is Butler, as a geographer, going to move back to either ED under Malone or the geography department in CoST? Have they given up on trying to market these programs as business alternatives? Will IDV continue to use the questionnaire? Does anyone know who is driving this amorphous economic development machine these days?

Date: Aug 2, 2005

QF, are you sure you're not really Mr. Richard Fader of Fort Lee, New Jersey? Because you sure ask a lot of questions.

Date: Aug 2, 2005

Gilda wrote:

QF, are you sure you're not really Mr. Richard Fader of Fort Lee, New Jersey? Because you sure ask a lot of questions.

No Roseanne, just one intrigued by the process and amused by the questionnaire.