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Faculty Grande Dame

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USMS,


Several days ago you asked me to explain why I felt the Shelby Thames era at USM was over and I promised to respond upon my return to campus. Well, I'm back, and while I don't believe I actually said that his era was over,  I'll attempt to expand on my thoughts. I see Thames as crippled but still dangerous.  He's lost the Dvoraks, Hanbury, Mader, and to some extent, Malone.  His cheerleader Klumb is no longer IHL president,  and he's gotten only a luke warm endorsement from the IHL board in their failure to grant him a four year contract extension.  Crofts has his number, and I assume the new IHL commissioner will as well. The new president, Newton, was the only opposing voice when he was  hired and has made no secret of her disapproval of his inept stewardship of USM.  He has very few friends and allies among the present USM faculty. At the moment, I can't think of a single one. Even the new deans that he brought in seem to have little respect for him.  I believe that while his immediate departure would be the best thing for the university, having him exposed and under continuing scrutiny by the press, the IHL, and a vigilant faculty should serve to neutralize him. I do think that his base instincts will continue to move him in the direction of petty, vindictive behaviour whenever an opportunity presents itself but for the most part, I feel that he's a lame duck. I don't know whether you know the man, but Shelby Thames is vain and egotistical, and  I believe he's now concerned with salvaging his legacy.  He doesn't wish to be remembered as the bumbling fool who ran off the entire English department, and steered USM  into SACS probation and the bottom tier of national universities. I think the concern over his legacy will, to some extent, keep him on the straight and narrow for the next two years. Let me repeat that he is, in my opinion, still dangerous and capable of making life miserable for those who aren't in his camp.  Thus, his era isn't truly over until, as you said, he "stumbles out the door." 


You also asked about my opinion concerning some movement to organize on Thames' behalf. I'm not clear on what movement you make reference to, but I'm unaware of anything on campus that fits that description.   I'm reasonably well connected, have served in the Faculty Senate until recently, chaired a department, and when I can, hang out at the local faculty watering holes.  I've heard nothing favorable about Dr. Thames from any colleague, certainly nothing that would lead me to believe he enjoys any faculty support.  I'd be surprised if there is any significant student support for Thames.  We don't have what I'd call an activist student body and to the extent that students are vocal about our present administration, I've heard nothing positive from any of them.  If he does have individuals organizing on his behalf, then I'd guess it's the Warren Paving Company crowd.


So what did I mean when I said that it's time to look forward?  It was a recommendation based on my own personal situation and philosophy. I'm a busy person. I have a husband, children, grandchildren, teaching and mentoring responsibilities, and only limited time and energy.  Other than keeping Shelby Thames in my rear view mirror,  I choose to allocate my energies in a positive forward-looking manner.  I will not allow hate for Shelby Thames to dominate my personal and professional life, and I see no point in stewing over past injustices (and they are many) suffered at his hand.  If I allow that to happen, then he has won. If you have the time, pull out William Earnest Henley's "Invictus," which best describes my attitude in general.


I have one final comment before I retire from this message board.  I don't believe I've posted more than a half dozen times here and on the old Fire Shelby board, so I don't consider myself a major player.  There are so many others more eloquent than I that I normally see no point in chiming in with thoughts already offered by others.  This past week I was surprised to see that following a relatively innocuous post,  I was attacked by one non-USM board commentator who questioned my bona fides, characterized as a troll by another,  and accused of being a surrogate for one of the newer anti-faculty antagonists.  What was my offense?  As nearly as I can tell, it was suggesting that we not allow ourselves to be consumed with bitterness, and that we look forward to the monumental task of rebuilding our university. I also said that I'd heard similar sentiments voiced by other members of the faculty.  I stand by those comments, and I plead guilty to harboring positive thoughts. I can only feel sorry for those who find themselves unable to do so.  Moreover, I truly lament the accusatory tone and name calling which now seem to permeate this board.


Thanks again to you, Stephen Judd, Jameela Lares, LVN, Stinky Cheese Man, Invictus, Cossack, RAM, and the many other thoughtful contributors to this forum.  I've enjoyed and benefitted from your wisdom. Keep up the good work.


Sincerely,


Faculty Grande Dame



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USM Sympathizer

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FGD,


Thanks for a very substantial and thoughtful response.  Right now I have no reply other than to say thanks (I'm extremely tired just now). 


The alleged petition to keep Shelby in office was mentioned by a poster on another thread.  That poster claimed that such a petition was circulating in town and that 2000 signatures (I believe) had already been gathered.  Frankly, I suspected at the time that if such a petition were indeed circulating, we would have heard about it long before now, and from more credible sources.


I hope you are right that Shelby's time has passed.  I just wish he would literally leave right away.  In his own perverse way, I suspect he is proud that he ran off half the English department; he may even consider that fact his major accomplishment.


Thanks again for responding to my request.


 



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Emma

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FGD,


Thanks for your post, I will go back and read that one again. USM can only heal if it moves on, and doesn't allow\SFT the power to be considered a major player in the\USM shell game right now. Oh, he's\around, but I hope he is officially reduced  to an Eddiw Haskell role, allthough at times I think of Gatsby  proudly showing all of his shirts to Nick and Daisy.  I love the ironic twists that Shell Games can hold.


3 hours from Hattiesburg and wireless Internet rulz



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USM Sympathizer

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Emma,


I love the Eddie Haskel analogy!  Just one problem: wasn't Eddie tall and thin?



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Robert Campbell

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Faculty Grande Dame,

I apologize for contributing to the accusatory tone of these exchanges.

It is clear from your response to USM Sympathizer that you have done a lot of thinking about the current situation at USM, and that you are not taking the position that I incorrectly attributed to you (as the bogus "Robert Campbell's Risk Manager" reminded everyone, using a couple of unacknowledged quotes).

This past week I was surprised to see that following a relatively innocuous post,  I was attacked by one non-USM board commentator who questioned my bona fides, characterized as a troll by another,  and accused of being a surrogate for one of the newer anti-faculty antagonists.  What was my offense?  As nearly as I can tell, it was suggesting that we not allow ourselves to be consumed with bitterness, and that we look forward to the monumental task of rebuilding our university. I also said that I'd heard similar sentiments voiced by other members of the faculty.  I stand by those comments, and I plead guilty to harboring positive thoughts. I can only feel sorry for those who find themselves unable to do so.  Moreover, I truly lament the accusatory tone and name calling which now seem to permeate this board.

I hope that you will put forward a positive program for change at USM, instead of relying on others to resist the current administration, then criticizing them for having bad attitudes. And that you will notice the significant difference between your response to USM Sympathizer and the exclusive focus on bad faculty attitudes that characterized Gracie's Mom's posts. As well as the difference between your latest contribution and the flagrant trolling that has been characteristic of Above the Mire (who you suggested could be a USM faculty member, perhaps without reading much of what he had written).

USM is your university, not mine. I trust that you and your colleagues will find effective ways to repair the damage and strengthen the university. The various faculty bodies at USM are in a good position to move forward, with your support.

Robert Campbell





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Invictus

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That was a "hall of fame" post, FGD. And I'd say that even if you hadn't cited a certain poem in it

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Patti

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Robert Campbell's Risk Manager wrote:


There you go again. As my boss already said, you're still extorting everyone to knuckle under to Thames until 2007. Why don't you go back wherever you came from if you don't like the way we talk?  We already know you're a friend of Gracie's Mom. That's all we care to know about you and your positive thinking. Still don't think you have an inkling of since.


Webmaster


I think you missed this one  :)


Would you please remove it per Mr. Campbell's request.  Thank you


 


 



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Least Venerable

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Invictus wrote:


That was a "hall of fame" post, FGD. And I'd say that even if you hadn't cited a certain poem in it

I just got around to reading this post, and I agree with Invictus.  It's easy to become dispirited about matters at USM.  Seeing the "progress"  made in exorcising the Thames demons over the past months summarized, as FGD did,  was uplifting. I'd suggest her post be added to USMS's compendium of "Read These Postings First."

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USM Sympathizer

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Least Venerable wrote:


 I'd suggest her post be added to USMS's compendium of "Read These Postings First."

Done!  (However, please forgive the whimsical title I imposed on the thread.)

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