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Date: Jul 13, 2005

USM Departure Statistics - 2002 thru 2005

Date: Jul 13, 2005

Given the most-accurate number (i.e., not "inflated" by MaderMath and press releases including part-timers and administrators) of 540 USM faculty members, the departure of 292 colleagues makes a 54 percent departure rate. Horrifying.

Date: Jul 13, 2005

That assumes we even have 540 as the average full-time faculty over 3 years. However, Babbs' list does include some admin. positions.

Date: Jul 13, 2005

summer 2003- summer 2005: 2 years not 3, right?...yes, even more horrifying

Date: Jul 13, 2005

get ir done wrote:

That assumes we even have 540 as the average full-time faculty over 3 years.

Well, in 2002-2003 we had 540 positions. And, given the recent administrative trend of "freezing unfilled positions," there's no telling how many faculty positions in the 2005-2006 budget. But, it's almost a certainty that there are no more than 540.

Date: Jul 13, 2005

Gnome Watcher wrote:

And now, to put it all together: 2003 - 2005 Departure Numbers 292 - Total Faculty who have left 100 - Total who have left due to Retirement 34.25% - Retirement 65.75% - "Other" reasons * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * If anyone has any information regarding the numbers / percentages of faculty leaving from other schools, please post it here. I am interesting in knowing if, statistically, the number of faculty leaving USM for "other" reasons has jumped since 2002. Also, if anyone has any information concerning the number of faculty leaving before 2002, it would be interesting to look at that as well to see if the "other" catagory has increased. Gnome Watcher

Is this data for the faculty only on Babbs list and does not include staff?

Date: Jul 13, 2005

get ir done wrote:

Th Babbs' list does include some admin. positions.

Administrators such as chairs, deans, and vice presidents normally carry academic rank in an academic department.

Date: Jul 13, 2005

Gnome Watcher wrote:

100 - Total who have left due to Retirement 34.25%

I retired but I would have stayed if the academic environment been fit to work in.

Date: Jul 13, 2005

Gnome Watcher wrote:

Also, if anyone has any information concerning the number of faculty leaving before 2002, it would be interesting to look at that as well to see if the "other" catagory has increased.

Gnome Watcher

Online Board minutes go back only as far as May 2001, and there are some gaps in the record. The minutes list these USM "terminations" from before May 2002. The minutes don't separate retirees from people who left to take other jobs.

May 2001

Gilbert, Lynda Lea
West, Hugh M.

June 2001

Abdul-Ghani, Mohamed
Alexander, Peter
Brown, Tammie Sue
Cadenhead, Gerry
Caveny, David James
Chrisite-David, Rohan
Dickson, Andrew L.
Doblin, Stephen A.
Duncan, Michaele
Faulkender, Patricia
Goebel, Daniel J.
Hardesty, David M.
Harrison, Cecil`
Harrison, John M.
Huch, Mary Halley
Hunt, David M.
Jaffe, Alexandra
James, Diana Kay
Jerome, Raoul Frank
Lester, Theresa G.
Marykwas, Donna
McDonald, Margaret
McMillen, Neil
Pegues, June A.
Peterson, Jon
Putthoff, Ronald A.
Richeson, Marlene
Schnur, James
Stuart, Jeffrey L.
Suter, Tracy A.
Ver Berkmoes, Cornelius H.
Walls, Gary L.
Vohra, Rahul
Ware, Elizabeth
Wulfhorst, Dieter

July 2001

no USM terminations this month

Aug. 2001

Board retreat -- no termination actions this month

Sept. 2001

Campbell, Catherine
Curley, Teresa H.
Dupre’, J. Kevin
Lauterbach, Sarah S.
Lippy, Brooke
McDonald, Michael
Paprzycki, Marcin
Perkins, Louise
Rabian, Brian
Scott, M. Janine
Smith, Tommy Van
Sun, Youli
West, Geneviere

Oct. 2001

Borsig, James B.
Fleming, Horace W.

Nov. 2001

Whittaker, Nancy

Dec. 2001

Board special session -- no termination actions this month

Jan. 2002

Clark, Emily
Daughtry, Larry Joe
Lewis, Jerry

Feb. 2002

Stamper, Anita
Stewart, John W.

Mar. 2002

Wicks, Douglas A.
Yang, Jie

Apr. 2002

McMahon, Mary-Jane

May 2002 - Oct. 2002

no minutes online for regular Board meetings

http://www.ihl.state.ms.us/admin/downloads/

Date: Jul 14, 2005

Reporter wrote:

Is this data for the faculty only on Babbs list and does not include staff?

Yes, Reporter, it is. I used the numbers as reported by Babbs, directly from the lists she posted earlier today.

Gnome Watcher

Date: Jul 14, 2005

info,

Thank you very much for the list. According to my count, there are 59 faculty members listed as "terminated" for 2001-2002.

59, as compared to the following years:

2002-2003 - 88 (with 30 retiring)
2003-2004 - 125 (with 53 retiring)
2004-2005 - 79 (with 17 retiring)

That results in the following stats:

* 2002-2003 saw a 49.2% increase in the number of faculty leaving over the previous year.

* 2003-2004 saw a 112% increase in the number of faculty leaving as compared to 2001-2002.

2003-2004 saw a 42% increase in the number of faculty leaving as compared to 2002-2003.

* 2004-2005 saw a 34% increase in the number of faculty leaving as compared to 2001-2002.

2004-2005 saw a 111% decrease in the number of faculty leaving as compared to 2002-2003.

2004-2005 saw a 158% decrease in the number of faculty leaving as compared to 2003-2004.

* * * * * * * *
Using 2001-2002 numbers as a baseline, we are still seeing an overall trend of increase in the number of faculty members leaving. Obviously, 2003-2004 was the worst year on record so far. (I also believe that this is the time frame when the Glamser-Stringer Affair occured.) However, it also appears that this trend may be reversing itself based on the numbers from 2004-2005.

We also need to keep in mind that we are working from a very limited set of data here. To obtain a true and accurate result, we really need to get some data from years previous to 2001-2002. Also, it would be helpful to know how many faculty left due to retirement from those years. Personally, I think that it would be very interesting to get some numbers from the years during the administration of Dr. Lucas, which I believe was the last "stable" administration in place at USM.

Gnome Watcher

Date: Jul 14, 2005

Just as Retiree posted, I would have not retired if the work environment had not been so awful. Many of those who left for other jobs also retired.

Date: Jul 14, 2005

Gnome Watcher wrote:

info, Thank you very much for the list. According to my count, there are 59 faculty members listed as "terminated" for 2001-2002. 59, as compared to the following years: 2002-2003 - 88 (with 30 retiring) 2003-2004 - 125 (with 53 retiring) 2004-2005 - 79 (with 17 retiring) That results in the following stats: * 2002-2003 saw a 49.2% increase in the number of faculty leaving over the previous year. * 2003-2004 saw a 112% increase in the number of faculty leaving as compared to 2001-2002. 2003-2004 saw a 42% increase in the number of faculty leaving as compared to 2002-2003. * 2004-2005 saw a 34% increase in the number of faculty leaving as compared to 2001-2002. 2004-2005 saw a 111% decrease in the number of faculty leaving as compared to 2002-2003. 2004-2005 saw a 158% decrease in the number of faculty leaving as compared to 2003-2004. * * * * * * * * Using 2001-2002 numbers as a baseline, we are still seeing an overall trend of increase in the number of faculty members leaving. Obviously, 2003-2004 was the worst year on record so far. (I also believe that this is the time frame when the Glamser-Stringer Affair occured.) However, it also appears that this trend may be reversing itself based on the numbers from 2004-2005. We also need to keep in mind that we are working from a very limited set of data here. To obtain a true and accurate result, we really need to get some data from years previous to 2001-2002. Also, it would be helpful to know how many faculty left due to retirement from those years. Personally, I think that it would be very interesting to get some numbers from the years during the administration of Dr. Lucas, which I believe was the last "stable" administration in place at USM. Gnome Watcher

Gnome Watcher, does this data exclude the staff on Babbs list?

Date: Jul 14, 2005

LeftASAP,

I was not aware that there were staff members listed on Babb's various lists - I was under the impression that they were all faculty members.

If the lists contain both staff and faculty positions then yes, the above numbers use those names, bacuase I used the numbers at the bottom of each of Babb's lists for my data.

Gnome Watcher

Date: Jul 14, 2005

Gnome Watcher wrote:

LeftASAP, I was not aware that there were staff members listed on Babb's various lists - I was under the impression that they were all faculty members. If the lists contain both staff and faculty positions then yes, the above numbers use those names, bacuase I used the numbers at the bottom of each of Babb's lists for my data. Gnome Watcher

Yes, there are many staff members on the list. It would take some work to reduce the list to only faculty and administrators holding faculty status.

Date: Jul 14, 2005

The terminations reflected in the Board minutes are faculty and those staff personnel considered executive/administrative (including coaches) who receive annual contracts. The list would be much bigger if it included the terminations of staff employees in "classified" positions, as these personnel do not receive annual contracts.