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Rod_Sterling

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As I drove through campus today, two things caught my attention.

First, new tacky signage is appearing in front of the academic buildings (at least JGB and LAB). Don't we have an ass. provost who's area of expertise is interior/exterior decorating? Did she approve these signs? Surely not....a woman with great taste would abhor these signs.

Secondly, I noticed that we are repaving the road between the Polymer Science Building and Owens-McQuage again. Do we pay Warren Paving the same amount to pave one street four times as if they paved four streets one time?

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Lupo

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Rod_Sterling wrote:

Secondly, I noticed that we are repaving the road between the Polymer Science Building and Owens-McQuage again. Do we pay Warren Paving the same amount to pave one street four times as if they paved four streets one time?
Such activities are enhancing "economic development" in Hattiesburg.  If it is accomplishing other purposes that is none of anyone's business outside of the dome and the contractors involved. 

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Above the Mire

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Rod_Sterling wrote:

As I drove through campus today, two things caught my attention. First, new tacky signage is appearing in front of the academic buildings (at least JGB and LAB). Don't we have an ass. provost who's area of expertise is interior/exterior decorating? Did she approve these signs? Surely not....a woman with great taste would abhor these signs. Secondly, I noticed that we are repaving the road between the Polymer Science Building and Owens-McQuage again. Do we pay Warren Paving the same amount to pave one street four times as if they paved four streets one time?
I'm sure you have plenty of documentation to back up your assertion.  If you don't, it is just more of the same idle gossip that characterizes this message board.

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in the news

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I'm assuming that much of the recent sidewalk tear-up is related to the overall idea of having bike-pathways leading into campus - but I don't know that. It would be nice to have less vehicle traffic into campus and allow better human traffic - BUT! - we must control the "idots" who drive those little golf carts 30 miles an hour across public areas where people (and their children) might be flattened. A REAL NUISANCE!


I think some good changes are going on, regarding bike and people traffic, but that did not begin with Thames! Why would he even care?! All of the additional students he desires are either online or on the coast - the recent work on sidewalks and bikeways are funded and initiated from another era.


As for the signage, I must disagree with an earlier post. New students need to know what the building is and such signage has not been available in the past. I think new signage is a great advantage for new students and faculty alike. What is "tacky" about it anyway?



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Third Witch

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Above the Mire wrote:
I'm sure you have plenty of documentation to back up your assertion.  If you don't, it is just more of the same idle gossip that characterizes this message board.


You again. I see you're standing around the water cooler, coffee cup in hand, just like everybody else. This superior act is such a fake.

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Rod_Sterling

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Above the Mire wrote:

I'm sure you have plenty of documentation to back up your assertion.  If you don't, it is just more of the same idle gossip that characterizes this message board.


Documentation? Well, I did see the signs. I did see that the road between PS and OM is closed AGAIN for paving. Should I post pictures?

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Eye Witness

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Rod_Sterling wrote:

Documentation? ... I did see that the road between PS and OM is closed AGAIN for paving. Should I post pictures?

I saw it too.  That same intersection has been paved, reopened, closed again and reopened, etc, etc.  I passed that intersection the day they finished paving and putting in the brick decor on the walkway.  A few days later the same area was torn up and a backhoe was digging down to reach pipes.  I assume there was some broken water main or utility lines down there.  A few days later they were back to paving the same intersection again.  This last time I didn't see why they were repaving.  



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Left the washcloth in the patient

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I did see that the road between PS and OM is closed AGAIN for paving. Should I post pictures? I saw it too.  That same intersection has been paved, reopened, closed again and reopened, etc, etc.  I passed that intersection the day they finished paving and putting in the brick decor on the walkway.  A few days later the same area was torn up and a backhoe was digging down to reach pipes.  I assume there was some broken water main or utility lines down there.  A few days later they were back to paving the same intersection again.  This last time I didn't see why they were repaving.  
Maybe they'll keep trying until they get it right. It must be very upsetting to have to keep repeating it

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JoJo

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You must be a Liberal Arts professor.  If you had a science or engineering background you would understand what Warren Paving is doing .



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Left the washcloth in the patient

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JoJo wrote:

You must be a Liberal Arts professor.  If you had a science or engineering background you would understand what Warren Paving is doing .
JoJo, your comments tell me that you don't have the foggiest notion about what training in science is all about. You're talking about training in a craft. Craftsmen are very talented and their services are essential, but scientists they are not. I am, by the way, in one of the sciences.

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Invictus

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JoJo wrote:
You must be a Liberal Arts professor.  If you had a science or engineering background you would understand what Warren Paving is doing .


Well, JoJo, I have a science background & more years in higher education administration that Shelby Thames himself (discounting his years as chair of a department with one or two faculty). It sounds to me as if the paving company is "getting it right." Whether they get additional money to "get it right" depends largely on the politician (be it highway commissioner or university administrator) who's overseeing the project.

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Taxpayer

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JoJo wrote:

You must be a Liberal Arts professor.  If you had a science or engineering background you would understand what Warren Paving is doing .
Even a philosophy major understands what they are doing, JJ. They're making money head over heels. And I'm paying for it.

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JoJO

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Low Bid---FOOL.  They also work 18 hrs a day.  Not 3 and out like you!!!

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Low Paid Faculty Member

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JoJO wrote:

Low Bid---FOOL.  They also work 18 hrs a day.  Not 3 and out like you!!!
If I made the hourly wages they do, I'd work more hours than that.

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JoJo

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They also have millions invested in plant and euipment.  They only get paid when they are low bid.  That is known as RISK-----Something you know nothing about in "Ivory Tower Land"

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Invictus

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Contrary to popular public belief, state & government contracts do not go to the "low bid." The actual terminology is "lowest & best bid." Unfortunately, many people who open bids consider the lowest bid to be the best bid.

It is perfectly legal -- indeed, it is part of the law -- for a "low bid" to be rejected if the company isn't able to comply with the advertisement or if it has a track record of failure to deliver on time or is known for over-runs. Again, the extent to which those are enforced depends largely on the (political) relationship between the vendor & the those who open the bids.

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Babysitter

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Now, JoJo, your mother told you that you were only allowed 30 minutes of internet use a day. No Happy Meal for you.

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Educated Fool

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JoJO wrote:

Low Bid---FOOL.  They also work 18 hrs a day.  Not 3 and out like you!!!
JoJo, Working 18 hrs a day is called "time and a half overtime."  That's sort of like MIDAS, except one has to work for the time and a half.  

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Emma's Wing woman

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Or find the right people to hand you over pork barrel?  Uncle Thad? Uncle Trent? Hailey???

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Moe

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Again, the extent to which those are enforced depends largely on the (political) relationship between the vendor & the those who open the bids.


No reason to worry about the appropriateness of contracts at USM.  Our fearless state auditor is tirelessly at work to make sure that state contracts in Mississippi are all above board.



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Get on board little Eagle

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Moe wrote:

Our fearless state auditor is tirelessly at work to make sure that state contracts in Mississippi are all above board.

Are you sure you don't mean ". . . tirelessly at work to make sure that state contracts are all on board?


 



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