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Date: Jun 11, 2005

Troll ratings

Date: Jun 11, 2005

In the past most of the trolls were Thames supporters. Now I think that most are attention seekers.

Date: Jun 11, 2005

If I am to be viewed as a troll, then at least I will take solace in your statements here, foot soldier. I hope I can at least spell and use proper sentence structure, even if my grammar rules are a bit outdated. Why is it that the MLA changes those darn rules, anyway?

I hate Thames. I hate Toy. I hate Klumb. I love shared governance. I love academic freedom.

Do I get to play now?? Am I now worthy, having paid tribute to all that is (currently) en vogue on the board?

Date: Jun 11, 2005

Hecho en China wrote:

If I am to be viewed as a troll, then at least I will take solace in your statements here, foot soldier. I hope I can at least spell and use proper sentence structure, even if my grammar rules are a bit outdated. Why is it that the MLA changes those darn rules, anyway?

I hate Thames. I hate Toy. I hate Klumb. I love shared governance. I love academic freedom.

Do I get to play now?? Am I now worthy, having paid tribute to all that is (currently) en vogue on the board?

You are almost there, once you announce that you hate the following you will be accepted:

Richard Gianinni
USM Baseball
EagleTalk.net (and their owners)
Everyone named Dvorak
Lawrance Warren
Bob Mixon
and (others to be named later).

Date: Jun 11, 2005

Hecho en China wrote:

... I hate Thames. I hate Toy. I hate Klumb. I love shared governance. I love academic freedom. Do I get to play now?? Am I now worthy, having paid tribute to all that is (currently) en vogue on the board?

Who cares what you love or hate. Those are emotions. I could hate academic freedom and shared governance, but support the use of these century old principles of academic governance because they have been proven to work. They lead to productive scholarship and academic integrity of institutions.

What I like is beside the point. If you have read this board for some time, you must have learned by now that all of this is not just a matter of opinion.

Date: Jun 11, 2005

Seeker wrote:

once you announce that you hate the following you will be accepted: Richard Gianinni USM Baseball EagleTalk.net (and their owners)

Seeker, you seem to have sports on the brain. I'm not terribly fond of water polo, but that doesn't mean that I hate the players, owners, or spectators.

Date: Jun 11, 2005

LeftASAP wrote:

Hecho en China wrote:
... I hate Thames. I hate Toy. I hate Klumb. I love shared governance. I love academic freedom. Do I get to play now?? Am I now worthy, having paid tribute to all that is (currently) en vogue on the board?

Who cares what you love or hate. Those are emotions. I could hate academic freedom and shared governance, but support the use of these century old principles of academic governance because they have been proven to work. They lead to productive scholarship and academic integrity of institutions.
What I like is beside the point. If you have read this board for some time, you must have learned by now that all of this is not just a matter of opinion.

You statement here is irrational. You cannot reasonably laud a course of action that doesn't provide the best available solution. If shared governance provides the best outcome, then it should logically be the form of governance you support. If it is not the best alternative, then you should oppose it. I think your argument is not best made for this topic.

Date: Jun 11, 2005

Hecho en China wrote:

LeftASAP wrote: Hecho en China wrote: ... I hate Thames. I hate Toy. I hate Klumb. I love shared governance. I love academic freedom. Do I get to play now?? Am I now worthy, having paid tribute to all that is (currently) en vogue on the board?

Who cares what you love or hate. Those are emotions. I could hate academic freedom and shared governance, but support the use of these century old principles of academic governance because they have been proven to work. They lead to productive scholarship and academic integrity of institutions. What I like is beside the point. If you have read this board for some time, you must have learned by now that all of this is not just a matter of opinion.

You statement here is irrational. You cannot reasonably laud a course of action that doesn't provide the best available solution. If shared governance provides the best outcome, then it should logically be the form of governance you support. If it is not the best alternative, then you should oppose it. I think your argument is not best made for this topic.

But the word used was "love" and "hate", not "logical" or "effective". I clearly pointed out that I could "hate" a process that worked in an effective way. I didn't provide the reason why I may hate the process. Maybe I'm impatient and think it's too slow.

In your reply you ignore the difference between statements of emotion and logic. If we kept this clear we could discuss, for example, if shared governance was effective, logical, etc.

Date: Jun 11, 2005

Foot Soldier, I agree that the meaning of Troll needs to be broadened. Everytime an interesting thread begins it gets off track by people trying to mess up the original thought. One of the things that I have noticed is that these people are attention seeking and boring. They have almost achieved their purpose as far as I am concerned. Please everybody let's think of a way to identify these people sooner so that we can ignore their post. And let's please do ignore their post. It doesn't mean we can't keep the thread. Just talk around them.

Date: Jun 11, 2005

Good advice, DS, although I have not followed it very well today myself!

Date: Jun 11, 2005

Trouble is, ds, it takes a while to figure out the game with some of them. Then they think they're clever and evil because they got some sincere person to parry with them for a while.
On the plus side, and this has been said by others, they give people a chance to make certain points and refine lines of thought.

Date: Jun 13, 2005

I'm here, but very tired of dealing with trolls. So, I tend to ignore them and hope they'll go away. I agree that most are attention seekers (esp. the ones who start polls about themselves), and the best course of action is to give them no attention. Believe me, I've learned the hard way.

Also, for most of them, this board might be the only time they'll ever see their misspelled, grammatically-incorrect writing in print.

Truth

Date: Jun 13, 2005

Truth,

Im actually one of dem edumicated troll. just to lazy to write properly sometimes. but hey, arent we all tired? I mean, i just got in from a battle-meeting with the Supreme Troll Lord (guess who) and those can go for days.

Date: Jun 13, 2005

Truth,

We have missed you! In honor of your return, we have composed this little song:

You Are The Sunshine Of Our Lives

That's Why We'll Always Stay Around
You Are The Apple Of Our Eyes

Forever You'll Stay In Our Hearts

Don't disappear for so long, girl!

Date: Jun 13, 2005

An admirer of Truth wrote:

Truth, We have missed you!

An admirer of Truth, I think the people in English call the name you have chosen a "double intended."

Date: Jun 13, 2005

Thanks for the song, Admirer. It's actually one of my faves...how did you know I love Stevie Wonder?? Do I know you IRL?

Truth

Date: Jun 13, 2005

truth4usm/AH wrote:

Do I know you IRL?

What does "IRL" mean?

For once, Truth, you confuse me!

Date: Jun 13, 2005

In Real Life?

RC

Date: Jun 13, 2005

In Rampant Lust?

<TIP OF STETSON TO KINKY FRIEDMAN, OF COURSE>

Date: Jun 13, 2005

Now, there you go, Vic, making something out of nothing! Kinky would be proud...

Robert, you are correct: IRL=In Real Life

I know that some of my old friends at USM post on this board, and I was wondering if Admirer was one of them.

Date: Jun 13, 2005

truth4usm/AH wrote:

Now, there you go, Vic, making something out of nothing! Kinky would be proud... Robert, you are correct: IRL=In Real Life I know that some of my old friends at USM post on this board, and I was wondering if Admirer was one of them.

No, I'm just someone from this board who usually posts under a different nom. I suspect there are lots of us, though, who could call ourselves "Admirers of Truth." I've just missed you lately and hoped you would return.