meeting with Crofts - USM Forum -- Message Board

Date: Mar 27, 2005

meeting with Crofts

Date: Mar 27, 2005

Amy,

You deserve a LOT of credit for all your efforts, time, and courage. I hope people at USM appreciate everything you are doing.

Date: Mar 27, 2005

Note that Crofts is willing to meeting with the AAUP, and presumably, to acknowledge its importance. I bet he doesn't think it is a "union."

Date: Mar 27, 2005

Dr. Crofts is an academic, thank goodness!

Date: Mar 27, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Arnold
"Note that Crofts is willing to meeting with the AAUP, and presumably, to acknowledge its importance. I bet he doesn't think it is a "union.""

Very good point!

Date: Mar 27, 2005

Amy, can you or somebody else provide a brief overview of the "Georgia model" or some links that might help us understand it better?

Date: Mar 27, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Invictus
"Amy, can you or somebody else provide a brief overview of the "Georgia model" or some links that might help us understand it better? "

Invictus, I can answer your question. I believe the "Georgia model" went on to become Miss America back when Bert Parks was Master of Ceremonies.

Date: Mar 27, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: There she goes
"Invictus, I can answer your question. I believe the "Georgia model" went on to become Miss America back when Bert Parks was Master of Ceremonies."

At least folks on this board have been able to keep a sense of humor (even if it sometimes IS gallows humor!).

Date: Mar 28, 2005

I too am interested in the "Georgia Model".

A short overview would be appreciated.

Date: Mar 28, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Kudzu King
"I too am interested in the "Georgia Model". A short overview would be appreciated."

Overview of the "Georgia Model:" 5'4" tall, Size 8 dress.

Date: Mar 28, 2005

i can't give a short version of the georgia system but here is a link to the system's main webpage: http://www.usg.edu/

Date: Mar 28, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: stinky cheese man
"i can't give a short version of the georgia system but here is a link to the system's main webpage: http://www.usg.edu/"

For openers, how about the mission statement at http://www.usg.edu/about/statements.phtml?

There's also a 70-year, pre-Meredith history at http://www.usg.edu/pubs/bor70th/.

Jameela

Date: Mar 28, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Invictus
"Amy, can you or somebody else provide a brief overview of the "Georgia model" or some links that might help us understand it better? "

Invictus--

Could be that the comments of Thomas Meridith (the Georgia Commissioner) to the IHL board at their February 21st meeting might give some insight into the Georgia system. Here's a link to the minutes:

http://www.ihl.state.ms.us/admin/downloads/BdFeb05-special.pdf

I seem to recall that you have to read through the minutes to find the Georgia Commissioner's comments appended as an Exhibit. (Sorry, but my Windows 98 SE OS is refusing to let me open pdf files today, so I can't confirm that recollection.)

For a thread relating to those minutes, see:

http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=24082&subForumID=36767&action=viewTopic&commentID=2433309&topicPage=2

Date: Mar 28, 2005

ram, you need a new OS. But don't try to update from 98 to XP. Better to get a new machine. (Advice from somebody who has to constantly tell herself "You don't NEED a laptop!")

Date: Mar 28, 2005

Yep. Got it open. Be sure you make it to pages 3-5 of the minutes. Page 2 is almost blank, so scroll on down.

Date: Mar 28, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: LVN
"ram, you need a new OS. But don't try to update from 98 to XP. Better to get a new machine. (Advice from somebody who has to constantly tell herself "You don't NEED a laptop!")"

Et tu, LVN?

Date: Mar 28, 2005

Thanks, ram. It opened up just fine for me.

Date: Mar 28, 2005

The "Meeting with Crofts " will turn out to be "An Appointment in Samarra."

Date: Mar 28, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: ram
"
Et tu, LVN?"

ram, I have a perfectly good PC that's only a couple of years old, runs XP. My son the computer genius says don't try to upgrade to XP on your present Win98 computer. It can be a mess. You probly need a new one. I have this fantasy that if I had a LAPTOP or notebook I would sit on the sofa and write a book. Ha, Ha, Ha!!!
I do like XP better than 98 in some respects. It is much more stable. Also, MS isn't supporting 98 any more.

Date: Mar 28, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: J. O'Hara
"The "Meeting with Crofts " will turn out to be "An Appointment in Samarra.""

Well, that is cryptic. I checked Amazon, and it looks like O'Hara's book is worth reading. But how does the martini in the face relate to the meeting with Crofts? Or do you refer to the old parable that I heard preached many times in my childhood?

These arcane allusions may work for you, but they're lost on me. Too abstruse for the obtuse, I suppose.

Date: Mar 28, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: LVN
" ram, I have a perfectly good PC that's only a couple of years old, runs XP. My son the computer genius says don't try to upgrade to XP on your present Win98 computer. It can be a mess. You probly need a new one. I have this fantasy that if I had a LAPTOP or notebook I would sit on the sofa and write a book. Ha, Ha, Ha!!! I do like XP better than 98 in some respects. It is much more stable. Also, MS isn't supporting 98 any more. "

Sorry, LVN; here I am, being cryptic with you after complaining about it.

My wife, son, and brother-in-law all make fun of my computer. Well, they make fun of me for keeping my computer. It is a Frankenstein's monster of component parts purchased over the years from junk shops and e-dealers. And now you take up their chorus. I feel like y'all are ganging up on me.

The problem is that "they" keep adding features I don't need. Yeah, I know Microsoft doesn't support 98 anymore. They never supported it in the first place, as far as I was concerned. I try not to talk to those people, if I can help it. I don't need all the "bells and whistles" of XP. I know how to use 98, why do I have to change? I am the customer, after all. Fat lot of good . . .

Here I am, Ned Ludd in the 21st Century.

Date: Mar 28, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: ram
"Here I am, Ned Ludd in the 21st Century."

Well, then, I'll scratch recommending that you install a nice "stable" version of Debian Linux on your PC. (I just resurrected an antique laptop with Debian that had a too-small hard drive for XP.)

Date: Mar 28, 2005

Invictus, you are right that there are alternatives to MS and the computer genius has recommended them to me too, but I'm too old and lazy to learn something new. At least he got me to switch to Firefox/Thunderbird. The rest of the family are Mac users.

Date: Mar 28, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Amy Young
"Last week, representatives from the AAUP statewide convention met with Commissioner Crofts.... Amy Young"

Crofts may be a genuine academic, but he is equal parts political operator. Given the slugfest that's ensued between AAUP and the administration for virtually the entire of Thames' time in office, Croft's meeting with the state AAUP group (no matter what he said or did not say there, and no matter what he really thinks of the AAUP) is a not-so-subtle message from the Commissioner to the president, i.e. "Start packing, pal."

Date: Mar 28, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: AAUP fan
"Crofts may be a genuine academic, but he is equal parts political operator. Given the slugfest that's ensued between AAUP and the administration for virtually the entire of Thames' time in office, Croft's meeting with the state AAUP group (no matter what he said or did not say there, and no matter what he really thinks of the AAUP) is a not-so-subtle message from the Commissioner to the president, i.e. "Start packing, pal." "

Unfortunately, not soon enough to stem this year's exodus of faculty.

Date: Mar 28, 2005

Regardless of what happens with Thames, the future is bleak. The state is on the brink of bankruptcy and the morons at the capital are both unwilling and unable to figure out that the current tax structure is not working. The math doesn't work when only a third of the state is working and paying taxes, particularly when most of those jobs don't pay very well. That combined with the almost certain financial mess that will become SFT's legacy will mean tough financial times for years to come.