Prediction of March 17th IHL Meeting - USM Forum -- Message Board

Date: Mar 14, 2005

Prediction of March 17th IHL Meeting

Date: Mar 14, 2005

I think you pretty much got it there at the end. You see, some on the IHL board and their crony friends in the Burg have too much invested in Thames. What a royal screw-up they all are. Again, I want to remind you what Fleming said in the newspapers about the board, when he had been criticized the day before by Klumb. Fleming said, simply, "This board is dysfunctional, and it needs to be fixed." That dysfunctional board got a dysfunctional president. Now the whole damned place is dysfunctional.

Date: Mar 14, 2005

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Originally posted by: Hamlet's Ghost
"I think you pretty much got it there at the end. You see, some on the IHL board and their crony friends in the Burg have too much invested in Thames. What a royal screw-up they all are. Again, I want to remind you what Fleming said in the newspapers about the board, when he had been criticized the day before by Klumb. Fleming said, simply, "This board is dysfunctional, and it needs to be fixed." That dysfunctional board got a dysfunctional president. Now the whole damned place is dysfunctional. "

Given, the board is dysfunctional and we have a dysfunctional president, our campus is still in trouble. We need to think about SFT getting another four years and begin thinking also of exit strategies for our faculty.................

Date: Mar 14, 2005

My guess would be that the report on the situation at USM by Crofts may take them awhile to digest. They have probably been hoping that SFT could pull the rabbit out of the hat but they may find out that ain't likely to happen. I'm really waiting to see how Crofts comes out of this meeting. I don't expect them to do anything about SFT yet. At this point, watching what happens to Crofts may give some clues to the future. I just hope the faculty treats Crofts like Typhoid Mary to avoid any hint that he has been "captured" by one side.

Worse case scenario: Crofts quits and Sullivan leaves on the next train.

Date: Mar 14, 2005

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Originally posted by: red
"My guess would be that the report on the situation at USM by Crofts may take them awhile to digest. They have probably been hoping that SFT could pull the rabbit out of the hat but they may find out that ain't likely to happen. I'm really waiting to see how Crofts comes out of this meeting. I don't expect them to do anything about SFT yet. At this point, watching what happens to Crofts may give some clues to the future. I just hope the faculty treats Crofts like Typhoid Mary to avoid any hint that he has been "captured" by one side. Worse case scenario: Crofts quits and Sullivan leaves on the next train."

see #2 above, Crofts is given his walking papers by IHL...........

Date: Mar 15, 2005

#3a Amtrack sees sudden burst of one-way tickets sold out of Hattiesburg station.

Date: Mar 15, 2005

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Originally posted by: Green Hornet
"Given, the board is dysfunctional and we have a dysfunctional president, our campus is still in trouble. We need to think about SFT getting another four years and begin thinking also of exit strategies for our faculty................."

Seems Shelby as kind and benevolent President is talking layoffs of over 100 faculty. Thanks for the exit strategy!

Date: Mar 15, 2005

Are the layoffs going to be conducted at the same time as the push towards 20,000 students? How is that going to work?

Date: Mar 15, 2005

Higher teaching loads, bigger classes, more virtual students. Just ask COB.

Date: Mar 15, 2005

I wonder if the IHL Board feels it must wait for SFT's annual evaluation before making a decision. They need to give SFT his due process and base their decision on that. There were rumors that the Board wants to wait until May for the evaluation under new president Newton, since SFT’s last evaluation was under Klumb.

But this makes no difference for me and other faculty. We're leaving because we can't wait that late to learn SFT has 4 more years. Even if they tells us on Thursday there will be a search, that is still too late for many faculty who can leave or retire.

Date: Mar 15, 2005

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Originally posted by: LeavingASAP
"I wonder if the IHL Board feels it must wait for SFT's annual evaluation before making a decision. They need to give SFT his due process and base their decision on that. There were rumors that the Board wants to wait until May for the evaluation under new president Newton, since SFT’s last evaluation was under Klumb. But this makes no difference for me and other faculty. We're leaving because we can't wait that late to learn SFT has 4 more years. Even if they tells us on Thursday there will be a search, that is still too late for many faculty who can leave or retire. "

This could also have an impact on current searches. Candidates looking at USM may have second thoughts. In addition, our pool of candidates and those who will come to USM will be of lower quality...........We're not getting the "best" faculty for our students.

Date: Mar 15, 2005

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Originally posted by: LeavingASAP
"They need to give SFT his due process and base their decision on that."

LeavingASAP, I also once thought that due process was a given at USM. Unfortunately, that is not the case. When I was USM administrator, I was informed point blank that USM administrators who are replaced have no appeals rights whatsoever. I learned very quickly that the term due process had no meaning at USM. I see you are leaving. Good luck. I wish that I had left when I first learned that USM does not play by customary and established rules.

Date: Mar 15, 2005

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Originally posted by: Green Hornet
"This could also have an impact on current searches. Candidates looking at USM may have second thoughts. In addition, our pool of candidates and those who will come to USM will be of lower quality...........We're not getting the "best" faculty for our students."

Yes, Green Hornet, I also hear that searchers are not going well. Even in the CoST I hear they are having trouble with searches, which is surprising since that is the area SFT wants to build up.

I know one search that would go well, if only the IHL will give permission to start.

Date: Mar 15, 2005

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Originally posted by: Boxed in
"LeavingASAP, I also once thought that due process was a given at USM. Unfortunately, that is not the case. When I was USM administrator, I was informed point blank that USM administrators who are replaced have no appeals rights whatsoever. I learned very quickly that the term due process had no meaning at USM. I see you are leaving. Good luck. I wish that I had left when I first learned that USM does not play by customary and established rules. "

I heard that administrators serve at the pleasure of their superiors, errr...supervisors. I know it is a sad state of affairs. I hope you find an out and don't go down with the ship.

You can always hope that the IHL will finally realizes that even if SFT has good ideas, and is doing what they want, someone with management skills will get it done smoother and in shorter times if they would just start the search process.

Date: Mar 15, 2005

No problem over here - we just hire our own graduates. We haven't taught them to be any smarter and figure out that they best leave. Of course, when they are ill prepared for the rest of the whirled.