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Mark Miller

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After following some of the considerable discussion of Economic Development (ED) at USM, I thought I would write in hopes of offering some small clarification from within. Please note, however, that all the following comes from my own, limited, highly opinioned perspective.

I consider my main academic specialty to be “regional economic development.” Through my working experiences in Belize (Peace Corps) and Guatemala, years ago, I found I had more questions than answers about how quality of life can be improved and sustained in developing places. To me, this is what economic development is about. I studied management and then geography in an effort better to understand and participate in this interdisciplinary field.

When I first took my faculty position at USM, in 1988, the ED masters program was offered within the then-department of Geography and Area Development. A few years back, the department was divided in two. In retrospect, I believe this was a mistake for many reasons, and it helped contribute confusion about the difference between ED in the ED Department and ED in the Economics Department.

Regional economic development has deep roots in the discipline of geography, as well as in regional planning, regional economics, anthropology, management, marketing, public policy, the arts, and even psychology. I consider regional ED an interdisciplinary field of study, rather than an academic discipline per se—such as Tourism, Latin American, or Women’s Studies.

In practice, there have been efforts for decades to establish ED as a recognized profession. The results in this regard have been mixed to date, but the stakes are high. Anyone who follows Mississippi current events recognizes that many millions of public and private dollars are invested every year in efforts to attract industries to our state and our communities. We would like to hope that there are some sound theories and reasonably reliable data guiding such investments.

I have a great deal of respect for my academic colleagues in economics, as well in the many other disciplines that contribute to economic development. Actually, I can pronounce “heteroskedasticity,” although I’m unlikely to use the term in a professional seminar. My own career has focused mainly, for better or for worse, on trying to bridge the yawning gap between academic research and application in practice. I’m still working on encouraging students and practitioners to pronounce phrases such as “you know, decades of data suggest that industrial incentives don’t really accomplish very much.”

In my experience, economists tend to focus on economic development at the level of the country, state, or city. Economists’ methods generally emphasize sophisticated quantitative modeling. Geographers tend to focus more on the fuzzier regions in between, e.g., neighborhoods, regions such as the Mississippi Delta, or larger regions such as Appalachia. Geographers’ methods generally emphasize more field research and mixed methodologies.

I believe that both fields provide invaluable perspectives, and there is plenty of work for all of us—particularly in a place like Mississippi. I do regret having missed the great economist Amartya Sen’s visit to campus. A text I assigned this semester (The UN Development Programme’s Human Development Report 2004) is largely based on his work. I applaud the research work of my former business college colleagues, and assign their articles in my classes.

Probably as much as anyone on campus, I have been affected by the decisions of the current administration. I can appreciate your concerns about numerous issues related to ED. I do hope, though, that you will distinguish between local politics and the value of an entire field of study. I believe I share the goals of most of you avidly reading this message board, of academic integrity, adequate library and other scholarly resources, and well-informed students who will take their place in professional ranks.


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Superman's Cape

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An undergraduate student recently asked me about getting a master's degree in ED, and I told her that the only faculty member I would talk to in that department was Mark Miller, as he was the only one who had the perspective to answer her questions in a meaningful way.

I agree that ED is a valuable field if it is applied correctly. However, much of what we see at USM is not true ED. When a student's skills are not applicable outside of the state of MS, then something is wrong. I agree that ED should center around developing countries, including trade, international finance, etc. However, this is not the case with USM's program, based on many sources of information I have encountered.

I am all for having a true ED program, if it were run according to the worldwide standard for what ED is. At present, what we have is a MS Development program that focuses on bringing in private-sector money to the South Mississippi area (Can we bring a Wendy's to Columbia?)


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truth4usm/AH

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Mark, thanks for weighing in with your thoughtful and valuable insights.

Truth (aka Andrea)



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Angeline

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I am all for having a true ED program, if it were run according to the worldwide standard for what ED is. At present, what we have is a MS Development program that focuses on bringing in private-sector money to the South Mississippi area (Can we bring a Wendy's to Columbia?)


Well, Mississippi is in the Third World, particularly in the Delta.



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Southbound and Down

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Originally posted by: Angeline

"Mississippi is in the Third World, particularly in the Delta."

If I were disadvantaged and in poverty, I'd sure as heck rather live in the Mississippi Delta and raise my family there than in one of those big city ghettos in the Northeast or Midwest. Many former Mississippi Delta residents who moved to Chicago or New York some years ago are flocking back to Mississippi. I'd be among the first at the Port Authority bus terminal waiting for a southbound Greyhound.

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By day I make the cars, by night I make the bars

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Originally posted by: Southbound and Down

"If I were disadvantaged and in poverty, I'd sure as heck rather live in the Mississippi Delta and raise my family there than in one of those big city ghettos in the Northeast or Midwest. Many former Mississippi Delta residents who moved to Chicago or New York some years ago are flocking back to Mississippi. I'd be among the first at the Port Authority bus terminal waiting for a southbound Greyhound."

Don't forget D-Troit. That's not the greatest place either.

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CW Fan

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Originally posted by: By day I make the cars, by night I make the bars

"Don't forget D-Troit. That's not the greatest place either."


"By day I make the cars, by night I make the bars" comes from Bobby Bare (C&W singer/songwriter), who would be proud someone recalled his hit song "Detroit City."


"I wanna go home", too.  Great recall "By day..."



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By day I make the cars, by night I make the bars

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Originally posted by: CW Fan

" "By day I make the cars, by night I make the bars" comes from Bobby Bare (C&W singer/songwriter), who would be proud someone recalled his hit song "Detroit City."

CW Fan, I had no idea that there was anybody at USM who appreciates C&W. But I now discover there is you. Not many wurl' class C&W singers appear in the Burg, but lots of great ones do appear at the Coast casinos. The last one I saw there was Gene Watson ("Paper Roses," "My Fairwell Party," etc.). That only set me back $5.00 and it included a second row seat at the show and two drinks (either coca-cola or the devil's brew). Gene chatted with me right from the stage. Good to have met you, CW fan.

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Tom Lindley

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While Mark Miller was a colleague in the College of Business for only a short time, I found him to be a stellar faculty member. On committees he was insightful and accommodating. I think that I speak for many in CBA that we would like to have kept in the college. I had several discussions with Mark about ED. He was truly academic in his approach and his vision of what an ED program should be were very close to my own. I feel that he should have been listened to much more in the development of the ED program because it could have been a quality program with multi department support.

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Easter Bunny

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Mark,


Thanks for the very informative post on "economic development" in general and in particular how USM's program fits within that framework.  Your explanation makes a lot of sense.  I too "... would like to hope that there are some sound theories and reasonably reliable data guiding such investments."  However, with the recent multi-million dollar beef-processing plant debacle, it is clear that sound theories and reasonably reliable data are still outside the purview of many public officials in Mississippi.  We can all surmise that Nissan or any other corporation feeding at the public trough is more likely to be successful, but why doesn't that same principle apply to the the small entrepreneur setting up a new business?  If (and I emphasize IF)Nissan deserves taxpayer support, why don't the hundreds of small-time entrepreneurs deserve  backing?  On aggregate, these folks probably are creating a lot more jobs than the Nissans of the world.


Your description of economic development as a multidisciplinary field seems reasonable.  Yet it is interesting that several of the disciplines you list are housed in the business school.  Economic development within the College of Business (COB) seems to make a lot of sense.  What went wrong at USM?


Finally, including entrepreneurship within the economic development umbrella at USM seems odd. The COB already has an entrepreneurship program.  Is this combination just another way at expressing displeasure with the COB, and perhaps another way to continue to weaken the college?


Thanks again for your very interesting post--and you can call me Bugs.


 



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Cowboy's Sweetheart

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Originally posted by: CW Fan

" "By day I make the cars, by night I make the bars" comes from Bobby Bare (C&W singer/songwriter), who would be proud someone recalled his hit song "Detroit City." "I wanna go home", too.  Great recall "By day...""

Hey, guys - don't forget me. I like real music too. In fact, I'm changing the lyrics of the 1980's Barry Manilow song, "Put a Quarter in the Juke Box" which was done as a duet with CW singer Ronnie Milsap, to "Put NO QUARTER" in the Juke Box."

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Fear

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My fear is that Economic Development under Thames is there to serve the Connectocracy and not there to serve the people of Mississippi.

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Counting the days

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Originally posted by: Easter Bunny

"Finally, including entrepreneurship within the economic development umbrella at USM seems odd. The COB already has an entrepreneurship program.  Is this combination just another way at expressing displeasure with the COB, and perhaps another way to continue to weaken the college? Thanks again for your very interesting post--and you can call me Bugs.  "


Bugs - It is ABSOLUTELY another way to weaken the college.  It is intended to do that very thing, in my opinion.  As I understand it, ED is NOT the same as entrepreneurship, and yet they are used interchangably by this regime.  My friends at B-schools have told me it takes years to really build a first rate program in entrepreneurship.  These programs are built heavily on scholarship (yes, that old bugaboo known as "basic research") and application/outreach, and are funded (often privately) to do so. 


Here at USM, there is: 1) Absolutely no money to establish such a program, 2) I suspect that anything Doty tries to do to get money to do this will be squashed by SFT and Kenbot, and 3) Doty will want to establish some good "street cred" in this area, to make the program SUSTAINABLE. This takes time, and sustainable is not in SFT's vocabulary. Everything is quick decision, do it, and ignore planning or sustainability.


As to Mark's comments - he is not someone I know personally, but he is "on the ball", and a great colleague from what I understand.  Thanks for the comments, Mark.


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Least Venerable

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Mark,


Thanks for taking the time to provide us with an insiders perspective and the only objective appraisal of the USM ED program I've seen.


I have a question that I doubt you'll feel comfortable answering here, given the volatile politics, but here goes.  How do you and other USM professors from the various disciplines you mentioned as being integral to the ED program, feel about being "led" by individuals who have, by the most charitable assessment,  absolutely no formal training in ANY of the fields which make up a multi-disciplinary ED program.  I'm speaking of Angie Dvorak and Ken Malone. I don't know either of them, but as an academician I have to wonder why a university with lofty aspirations would choose individuals trained in English and Polymer Science as architects of this nascent program.  It seems to me this undermines the credibility of the program from the start.


Thanks in advance. I'll certainly understand if you're unable to comment further.


LV



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33 1/3%

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Glad I went on the record saying he was one of the good guys!!!

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CW Fan

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Originally posted by: By day I make the cars, by night I make the bars

"CW Fan, I had no idea that there was anybody at USM who appreciates C&W. But I now discover there is you.

By Day...: Sorry I am not at USM or live in the 'Burg.  Thanks for the CW interest.  Wish I could play Aaron Tippin's "Working Man's Ph.D." 

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