"Babe" of the Day -- 3/1/2005 - USM Forum -- Message Board

Date: Mar 1, 2005

"Babe" of the Day -- 3/1/2005

Date: Mar 1, 2005

What does US News say about UNC? Overall, #29 among all national universities; 7th among all universities in the South; 5th among all public universities.

And.... most important of all #2 in Basketball

Want to get a professional degree? Business #21; Medicine #20; Library Science #1

Here's the kicker. Tuition is $3200/ year for NC residents. No wonder the Princeton Review ranked it "Best college value in the nation (April 2004)".

USM charges almost $1000 more per year. Who's getting the better deal?

Want to go to UNC? Shelby Foote and Walker Percy did! But you'll have to study hard. Out-of-state SAT's average in the mid 1400s.

Go Heels!

Date: Mar 1, 2005

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Originally posted by: Dyed in the wool tarheel
"What does US News say about UNC? Overall, #29 among all national universities; 7th among all universities in the South; 5th among all public universities. And.... most important of all #2 in Basketball Want to get a professional degree? Business #21; Medicine #20; Library Science #1 Here's the kicker. Tuition is $3200/ year for NC residents. No wonder the Princeton Review ranked it "Best college value in the nation (April 2004)". USM charges almost $1000 more per year. Who's getting the better deal? Want to go to UNC? Shelby Foote and Walker Percy did! But you'll have to study hard. Out-of-state SAT's average in the mid 1400s. Go Heels!"

And their alumni are not quite as arrogant as some Dukeophiles can be. The only thing negative I can say about UNC has to do with that chicken s**t 4-corners offense they used in basketball when Dean Smith was head coach there.

Date: Mar 1, 2005

As a non-UNC graduate, I would characterise the "4 corners" as more strategy than chickens**t, but then again, my alma mater never lost to that strategy. It would probably hurt really badly to get beaten by inferior players who were better molded into a better team by a better coach.

Date: Mar 1, 2005

North Carolina isn't wanting for good schools. There's also Duke, of course, and NCSU has a John Donne powerhouse--three faculty members (M. Tom Hester, R V Young, and Brian Blackley) producing, among other things, the John Donne Journal. See at http://social.chass.ncsu.edu/jdj/. (I'm not sure why the images are working today on my computer, but the harpsicord track is nice.) While I'm at it, I'll post the URL for the John Donne Society: http://www.chss.montclair.edu/donne/. Anyone who is unaware what we lost with Gary Stringer, please note the level of both scholarship and loyalty.

No quarter.

Jameela

Date: Mar 1, 2005

Make that, "why the images aren't working today." JL

Date: Mar 1, 2005

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Originally posted by: Live form the DeanDome
"I would characterise the "4 corners" as more strategy than chickens**t"

Dean Smith's 4-corners paved the way for the 30 second shot clock. Fans such as myself wanted to see real basketball. They were weary of seeing five players just tossing the ball one to another. I believe the chicken/s characterization is correct. That was the way the rule makers saw it when they instituted the 30 second shot clock to put a halt to the 4-corners.

Date: Mar 1, 2005

I think I ran afoul of an NC State grad here, but I would like to point out that we are admiring the university, not its athletics teams. I would sincerely doubt that, say, Randolph-Macon has an athletics team that will draw much ire from rival schools, but its academics are quite good.

I would ask that, though you may be a fan of a rival school, you judge our "Babes" based on their respective academic communities and remember that, to steal a phrase from a friend, just because you don't want to date a redhead/blonde/brunette doesn't mean nobody should.

This is meant to be an uplifting thread, not a place for smack talk about whose sports team is better.

Thanks.

Date: Mar 1, 2005

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Originally posted by: Jameela Lares
"North Carolina isn't wanting for good schools. There's also Duke, of course, and NCSU has a John Donne powerhouse--three faculty members (M. Tom Hester, R V Young, and Brian Blackley) producing, among other things, the John Donne Journal. See at http://social.chass.ncsu.edu/jdj/. (I'm not sure why the images are working today on my computer, but the harpsicord track is nice.) While I'm at it, I'll post the URL for the John Donne Society: http://www.chss.montclair.edu/donne/. Anyone who is unaware what we lost with Gary Stringer, please note the level of both scholarship and loyalty.
No quarter.
Jameela"

FYI -- Duke, Wake Forest, and NC State are all on my list of future "Babes."

Date: Mar 1, 2005

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Originally posted by: Fort Apache, the 'Burg
"I think I ran afoul of an NC State grad here"

If you mean me, let me say that I have been a UNC fan before you were but a twinkle in your father's eye. It would be a top choice were I entering college as an undergraduate today. No, I am not an NC state grad. But NC state does have one good feature: It it just down the street from the Angel Farm - Meredith College!

Date: Mar 1, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Fort Apache, the 'Burg
" FYI -- Duke, Wake Forest, and NC State are all on my list of future "Babes.""

I hope that you will also consider including some of the fine smaller schools. Duke, Wake Forest, and NC State are not the only games in the tarheel state. There is also Davidson College whose academic standards equal or exceed any of the big boys.

Date: Mar 1, 2005

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Originally posted by: Research Triangle
"I hope that you will also consider including some of the fine smaller schools. Duke, Wake Forest, and NC State are not the only games in the tarheel state. There is also Davidson College whose academic standards equal or exceed any of the big boys."

North Carolina is blessed with so many fine universities. Even the branch campuses of the state system are outstanding. UNC-Asheville is a designated liberal arts institution; UNC-Greensboro is emerging into a major insititution. UNC-Wilmington, at the beach, is growing by leaps and bounds.

NC has a large, educated, professional middle class that sees the value in taxing itself to invest in public education at all levels. Two years ago the state passed a three billion [yes, that's with a 'B'] dollar bond referendum just for its 16 state universities.

Mississippi has always lacked that middle class. Its why the civil rights movement was so violent here; and its why there is so little support for public education. The defeat of the Lamar Co. school bond referendum is evidence that people just don't see a first-rate education as a necessity for their children.

A healthy, educated workforce is a productive workforce. This is also why Mississippi will continue to fall behind the rest of the nation, economically. It is well worth pondering that Mississippi entered the 20th century with eight seats in Congress; it left the 20th century with four. And the state will likely lose another seat in 2020.

The state's future economic prospects are nothing short of grim. Its poorly educated and relatively unhealthy workforce is not nearly as productive as that of other states that make the public investments in education and healthcare, yet its wage structure is too high to compete with Mexico or Central American economies, not to mention China. State political leaders don't have any answers. If the people won't tax themselves to pay for these investments, they won't reap the rewards in future generations.

Date: Mar 1, 2005

Appachian State University and Western Carolina University, although not having the prestige of other N.C. public universities mentioned here, are no slouches either. They do very well what they are intended to do. Mississippi has no public university in that category, much less any like UNC or NC State. I never understood how public higher education in Mississippi got so out of kilter. But after viewing the events that have occurred at USM during the past two or three years I believe I am developing a smattering of insight into the matter.