H.A. 2/23/05 - USM Forum -- Message Board

Date: Feb 23, 2005

H.A. 2/23/05

Date: Feb 23, 2005

From the article:

He also said the College of Science and Technology has a similar model to economic development over the College of Business.

"Their business model is to run their operation off tuition dollars," Malone said. "They don't do grants, they don't do a significant number of contracts, they pretty much teach and publish basic research but very seldom does anybody pay (the college) to do the research."

Is this Ken Malone's dig at the CoB? Any responses from CoB faculty members or others in the know?

Date: Feb 23, 2005

Yes, this was Dr. Malone's best shot at the B school. I suggest we let it drop -- desperate people do desperate things.

Date: Feb 23, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: CoB Faculty
"Yes, this was Dr. Malone's best shot at the B school. I suggest we let it drop -- desperate people do desperate things. "

At least he admitted that you do basic research!

Date: Feb 23, 2005

"Carrying the name of Trent Lott and 'national center' helps you with getting in grant money," Malone said. "It gives you a credibility."

Really? Silly me to think of things like accreditation and rankings...

Date: Feb 23, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: CoB Faculty
"Yes, this was Dr. Malone's best shot at the B school. I suggest we let it drop -- desperate people do desperate things. "

Are you sure that Malone isn't going to get another shot at the College of Business?

RC

Date: Feb 23, 2005

I consider Black Friday a good shot that was deflected. Now, if Malone sets up these programs and steals enrollment from the traditional business area, he might slowly weaken the college's financial position (since it is funded by tuition only primarily as he says). If this happens then SFT can start dismantling elements of it. If enough professors leave and he decides not to fund their replacements, the CoB will wither away. I would expect a large proportion of Asst. Profs to cut loose soon, who wants to wait around for a slow but steady erosion. This is just one way of looking how the war will be fought on an extended time scale.

Date: Feb 23, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: CoB Not Out of Woods
"I consider Black Friday a good shot that was deflected. Now, if Malone sets up these programs and steals enrollment from the traditional business area, he might slowly weaken the college's financial position (since it is funded by tuition only primarily as he says). If this happens then SFT can start dismantling elements of it. If enough professors leave and he decides not to fund their replacements, the CoB will wither away. I would expect a large proportion of Asst. Profs to cut loose soon, who wants to wait around for a slow but steady erosion. This is just one way of looking how the war will be fought on an extended time scale."

This was clearly the plan. After Shelby's public retraction and statements of support for the business college, coupled with the increased board scrutiny of the situation, it will be a little harder to implement. I would agree, however, that CoB is Into the Woods and confronting evil.

Date: Feb 23, 2005

Shelby never forgets or forgives those that cause him problems. The CoB is at the top of his hit list. He will state otherwise but for those that were here when he was Exec. VP we all know he never gets past a perceived wrong by another person. CoB may well be on the way out and the fifth college will be the CoED.

All untenured ones in the CoB should be in the market now.

Business One

Date: Feb 23, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: truth4usm/AH
"From the article:
He also said the College of Science and Technology has a similar model to economic development over the College of Business.
"Their business model is to run their operation off tuition dollars," Malone said. "They don't do grants, they don't do a significant number of contracts, they pretty much teach and publish basic research but very seldom does anybody pay (the college) to do the research."
Is this Ken Malone's dig at the CoB? Any responses from CoB faculty members or others in the know?"

Just wondering... Rather than doing their "extra work" under grants & contracts, don't most business profs do consulting? And isn't consulting an area where the university can't skim it's (usually ludicrous) indirects?