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Date: Feb 13, 2005

Nothing much will change unless....

Date: Feb 14, 2005

“Nothing will really change around this place until USM gets off the plantation system. Rewarding fallen bad and incompetent administrators with a lifetime vacation pass back to the minor leagues with high pay while hard-working faculty are set-up and eliminated for speaking out is an unfair system that rewards evil or incompetence and punishes hard work and free speech.”

Uh buddy, this works both ways. How do you think over half of the faculty got and keep their jobs!!!!!!!!!!! How do you think Chairs and Deans get selected---or used to before Thames put a stop to the plantation system used by the faculty.

Even when instructors here get denied tenure, they turn around and sue the school like that lady is doing now (I can’t remember her name (Melissa something?)) Also, when instructors do not do enough to oppose Thames, they get denied tenure by the rest of the department.

Open your eyes, get your facts straight, and practice what you preach!!!

Date: Feb 14, 2005

Large font, excessive terminal punctuation marks, grammatical errors, ad hominem attack... It walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...

TROLL ALERT

Date: Feb 14, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Troll-O-Meter
"Large font, excessive terminal punctuation marks, grammatical errors, ad hominem attack... It walks like a duck, quacks like a duck... TROLL ALERT"

And not a very sophiscated troll at that.

Date: Feb 14, 2005

Hey, I don't teach at USM. But if "concerned student" is actually "concerned" & actually a "student," somebody has to take credit for it.

Date: Feb 14, 2005

"Even when instructors here get denied tenure, they turn around and sue the school like that lady is doing now (I can’t remember her name (Melissa" something?))"

This is the dead give-away. A troll indeed.

Date: Feb 14, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Concerned Student
" How do you think over half of the faculty got and keep their jobs!!!!!!!!!!! How do you think Chairs and Deans get selected---or used to before Thames put a stop to the plantation system used by the faculty. ) . . . Also, when instructors do not do enough to oppose Thames, they get denied tenure by the rest of the department. "

Okay, these look like questions, even though the punctuation would indicate otherwise. I'll bite.

I don't know; how did over half of the faculty get (and keep) their jobs? And who is keeping those statistics?

Can you give a few examples of the faculty that opposed Thames and were denied tenure? How about one example? This would be one of those facts that we should get straight. Right?

Date: Feb 14, 2005

quote:
Originally posted by: Dumb as The Rock
"Can you give a few examples of the faculty that opposed Thames and were denied tenure? How about one example? This would be one of those facts that we should get straight. Right?"

I think Doug Chambers opposed Thames & was denied tenure. There are others, of course, but I believe he was the most prominent recent example.

But I think also, DaTR, that what you meant to ask is for "CS" (how appropriate!) to provide an example of a faculty member who did not oppose Thames & was denied tenure by his/her department.

Date: Feb 14, 2005

Originally posted by: Invictus
" But I think also, DaTR, that what you meant to ask is for "CS" (how appropriate!) to provide an example of a faculty member who did not oppose Thames & was denied tenure by his/her department. "

Sorry. Of course, you're right. In my haste and fury, I typed what I believe to be typical: that most faculty would oppose Thames. That's why I'm Dumb as The Rock.

You've given a presumptive example of one side. Let CS give us the same for the other side.