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Date: Dec 20, 2004

USM Departures (12/20/2004)

Date: Dec 20, 2004

With a faculty/staff well into the thousands, i hardly find this number to be 'staggering.'

I actually am having trouble finding your point at all here.

Date: Dec 20, 2004

Babbs--

Great to see you back! One thing...I think Becky Woodrick and staff are safe for now. I don't have the details, but perhaps someone else can help?

Date: Dec 20, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: TheMan
"With a faculty/staff well into the thousands, i hardly find this number to be 'staggering.' I actually am having trouble finding your point at all here. "

This is just the beginning, Man. Keep watching and Babbs' point will become abundantly clear.

Date: Dec 20, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: I'm outa here
"This is just the beginning, Man. Keep watching and Babbs' point will become abundantly clear."

Yeah, Man. I'm outa here is right on the money. If things at USM proceed as usual, Babb's list will grow and grow and grow. Man, you must be new to this board. Otherwise you'd have seen the Babbs list grow and grow and grow this past year.

Date: Dec 21, 2004

Thanks guys. I need help making this list complete, so please respond with your additions when I post the departures list up.

Date: Dec 21, 2004

I will greatly miss my LAB hallmate directly opposite, Dr. Luz Marina Escobar of Foreign Languages, who is leaving after this semester. Luz lived up to her name (Spanish, "light"); she was always friendly and encouraging. She is leaving with her husband (CEP?) who has accepted a very good job in the Middle East. Sorry that I'm blanking on his name and position. I've just finished most of the end of the semester work and can't retrieve his name from the memory banks. Maybe someone can help with the rest of the information.

Jameela

Date: Dec 21, 2004

Linda Goff, Associate Professor, Speech Communication (retirement)

Tim Hudson, Provost (Univ. of Houston, Victoria)

Escobar's husband is Warren Ortloff, Assistant Professor, Educational Leadership. He left for a job in the Middle East over the summer. He may be on Babbs' pre-August list. Maybe Hudson was also on last year's list.

Date: Dec 21, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: TheMan
"With a faculty/staff well into the thousands, i hardly find this number to be 'staggering.' I actually am having trouble finding your point at all here. "

TheMan, TheProblem is when you look at the past few years too many people have left USM. You can tell when you have a forest fire by all of the animals running in one direction away from the fire. You don't even need to see the smoke. Part of the cause of the SACS probation is that USM is losing its academic memory because so many have left. Realize that the people leaving are producing quality work.

Date: Dec 21, 2004

Maybe new posters would have a better understanding if Babbs would repost her list from last year -- then everyone could see how the numbers add up quickly.

Date: Dec 21, 2004

Babbs,

Jake Levy, Psychology, left this month for University of Tennessee.

Date: Dec 21, 2004

Ray Folse didn't retire in September. But the word is he is planning for June.

Date: Dec 21, 2004

Last year I thought it odd that department chairs, deans, or their designates did not provide Babbs with orderly and updated information about departures.

Date: Dec 21, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Advocate
"Maybe new posters would have a better understanding if Babbs would repost her list from last year -- then everyone could see how the numbers add up quickly. "

That might be difficult, as there are nearly 50 different threads. To see them, go to the second drop-down menu at the bottom of the page displaying threads and change "Sorted by" from "Last Modified" to "Started By." Then go to page 6 or 7 (or maybe 8) and read and read and read and read.

Could the webmaster set up some kind of link to the stories on USM departures?

Date: Dec 21, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Googler's Third Cousin
" Could the webmaster set up some kind of link to the stories on USM departures? "

Another relative reporting, Sir. A good idea, Sir.

Date: Dec 21, 2004

Perhaps the webmaster can put all of Babbs' departure lists as a sticky at the top of the board.

Date: Dec 21, 2004

The list will grow and balloon in Spring when many hiring decisions are made.

Do we have a good headcount of the number of faculty, their rank, # adjuncts, etc.?

How many faculty are there now? I heard there was a hiring freeze of sorts, but only in some departments and schools????? Sounds typical of USM if so.

Date: Dec 21, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Googler
" Perhaps the webmaster can put all of Babbs' departure lists as a sticky at the top of the board."

Look for this soon.

Date: Dec 21, 2004

And let's not forget the other psychology folks - Dan Randolph just retired after a long career at USM, and Rosamond Myers (Intership DIrector at the Counseling Center) left a couple of months ago.

NO QUARTER!

Date: Dec 21, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Let Freedom Ring
"And let's not forget the other psychology folks - Dan Randolph just retired after a long career at USM, and Rosamond Myers (Intership DIrector at the Counseling Center) left a couple of months ago. NO QUARTER!"

Dan, I beleive, will still be involved in the MEd programs in that college on a part time basis after the usual required hiatus.

Date: Dec 21, 2004

Is there a way to mark which ones left because of the administration?

The reason I ask is because Nix left for a better football opportunity not because of what Thames has done and the same goes for Scherer and Warner who were both fired.

Date: Dec 21, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Just Wait Till Spring
"The list will grow and balloon in Spring when many hiring decisions are made. Do we have a good headcount of the number of faculty, their rank, # adjuncts, etc.? How many faculty are there now? I heard there was a hiring freeze of sorts, but only in some departments and schools????? Sounds typical of USM if so."

Just Wait,

A good headcount is worth compiling. Administrations like to exaggerate the number of faculty... and USM's has padded the numbers shamelessly under Thames.

Robert Campbell

Date: Dec 21, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: G.R.I.T.S.
"Is there a way to mark which ones left because of the administration? The reason I ask is because Nix left for a better football opportunity not because of what Thames has done and the same goes for Scherer and Warner who were both fired."

Well, Babbs' compilation from "last year" listed Coaches along with Faculty and Staff departures, and most of us realize that the "volatility" of the coaching market is usually driven more by economics than by university administrations (with the obvious exception of when a head coach of any sport is fired).

Date: Dec 21, 2004

I heard from some physics faculty that last week they were interviewing two candidates for their Chair position. Just heard today that both candidates were offered the position in turn and both turned it down. I wasn't told the reasons, but SACS may be part of it. So besides people leaving we have hiring problems. Any other reports of similar difficulties would be appreciated.

Date: Dec 21, 2004

Why was Rudy Sirochman denied tenure and promotion. Word has it that he passed with flying colors through the dept. and then there was a college hold up - the UAC destroyed him. Does anyone know? He's now happy at Georgia State and has moved on, but he was a casualty.

Date: Dec 21, 2004

Anyone know if Marcus Nause is still with USM? I also heard that Zantow, Daniel and Rambo were all leaving from USMGC. Is this true? What happened with Mark Goodman?

Date: Dec 21, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Let's get Physical
"Why was Rudy Sirochman denied tenure and promotion. Word has it that he passed with flying colors through the dept. and then there was a college hold up - the UAC destroyed him. Does anyone know? He's now happy at Georgia State and has moved on, but he was a casualty."

I heard similar stories. He heard he passed the department and college committees, but not the dean. Haven't heard what hapened at the UAC level. Glad to hear he is doing well. That seems to be what happens to all who escape USM, stalag/EXIT 13.

Date: Dec 21, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Rumor
"That seems to be what happens to all who escape USM, stalag/EXIT 13."

stalag/EXIT 13 - very clever, Rumor. Too bad Malapropism is not tending the board this week.