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http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041215/NEWS01/412150328


Was there a national search for the new Head of Accredidation?  Does Joy meet the qualifications needed to get USM out of this mess?  Does she have the faculty support to allow her to get the job done?  Is the IHL going to hire their own consultant?



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A Google search of her name will answer your questions.

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http://www.hattiesburgamerican.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041215/NEWS01/412150328

"Exline said officials were still negotiating her $72,000 annual salary."


I didn't know we could negotiate such things. In front of whose door do we line up when negotiating time comes around.? Do I need an agent?



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OK -- I'll play.  I got this from Google:


http://www.usm.edu/pr/prnews/dec04/hamilton.htm


USM's press release -- pretty much the same info that the HA repeated. 



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Another Piney Woods "National" Search!

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Exline said no external candidates were interviewed.


She also said there was no committee - she hired this person solo.


Joy may end up being good, but the process is (yet again and again and again) leaving people upset.



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 Joan Exline had to admit that Joy did not have any SACS experience during the IHL meeting today

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" Joan Exline had to admit that Joy did not have any SACS experience during the IHL meeting today"
I wonder if she realizes how how bad off we really are.

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" Joan Exline had to admit that Joy did not have any SACS experience during the IHL meeting today"


At the Faculty Senate meeting on Wednesday, Exline said the same, plus that JH was a former student of hers.

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" Joan Exline had to admit that Joy did not have any SACS experience during the IHL meeting today"


Reality check time, people! Does it ever occur to you that anyone with SACS experience & expertise in assessment probably wouldn't touch the job at USM for all the wombats in Mecca?

I couldn't see taking Exline's job for $72K unless it included a housing & SUV allowance, a 4-year guaranteed buy-out clause, PERS maintenance & a tenured full professorship as a "golden parachute." It is thankless: If the university succeeds, everybody & his brother-in-law (i.e., the rest of the administration) will take credit, but if it fails, she fails alone. Been there, done that, bought the souvenir t-shirt.

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" Reality check time, people! Does it ever occur to you that anyone with SACS experience & expertise in assessment probably wouldn't touch the job at USM for all the wombats in Mecca? I couldn't see taking Exline's job for $72K unless it included a housing & SUV allowance, a 4-year guaranteed buy-out clause, PERS maintenance & a tenured full professorship as a "golden parachute." It is thankless: If the university succeeds, everybody & his brother-in-law (i.e., the rest of the administration) will take credit, but if it fails, she fails alone. Been there, done that, bought the souvenir t-shirt."
You are right - both of these jobs originated from the basement of hell.

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Originally posted by: Invictus
" Reality check time, people! Does it ever occur to you that anyone with SACS experience & expertise in assessment probably wouldn't touch the job at USM for all the wombats in Mecca? I couldn't see taking Exline's job for $72K unless it included a housing & SUV allowance, a 4-year guaranteed buy-out clause, PERS maintenance & a tenured full professorship as a "golden parachute." It is thankless: If the university succeeds, everybody & his brother-in-law (i.e., the rest of the administration) will take credit, but if it fails, she fails alone. Been there, done that, bought the souvenir t-shirt."

But, we've already seen what "tenure and full professor status" means to this university administration, right?


I am SO glad to have escaped before the IHL supported the continuing evisceration of the professoriate at USM!!!!!


 



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"We posted the position and interviewed several candidates in November," said Dr. Joan Exline, assistant to the president for accreditation, articulation and planning. "I was looking for someone with experience in program evaluation and survey research who also had superb organization skills and could hit the ground running at Southern Miss. I have worked with Ms. Hamilton before and am delighted that she has accepted the position and will begin working with me after the holidays."


Who else applied? Where was it posted? When did the interviews take place? Who are these "several candidates"?  This is a public institution, and we have a right to know.



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"Exline said no external candidates were interviewed. She also said there was no committee - she hired this person solo. Joy may end up being good, but the process is (yet again and again and again) leaving people upset."

Sorry to be so late weighing in on this, but I am yet again amazed that this "wurl' class" institution thinks itself so world class that it doesn't consider that fresh ideas from OUTSIDE the university might be helpful in such a dangerous situation. Promoting from inside may be a good way to run a lumber bidness, but a university? I think not.


I don't know Joy Hamilton, and she may or may not be qualified. The process stinks and for $72,000 (negotiable as I understand it), surely we could have hired a 'name' to do this which certainly couldn't have hurt in the eyes of SACS.


Perhaps the university could adopt a new motto: "Academic Incest is Best"



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