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There will be a called meeting of Faculty Senate on Wednesday, December 15 at 5 p.m. in rooms B7C of the Union.  Dr. Joan Exline will address the Senate and discuss the SACS probation.  FS meetings are open meetings. 

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The location should have been rooms B&C of the Union. 

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FROM FACULTY SENATE  LISTSERV: 


Dec. 13, 2004
>
>Dear Faculty Senators,
>
>      I was disappointed in reading a quote in the Saturday, Dec. 11th edition
>of the Hattiesburg American.  Three paragraphs in the article read as follows:
>
>Exline said she was disappointed that even though she asked to speak to the
>Southern Miss Faculty Senate to address concerns they may have about the
>probation, she was told by president David Beckett to wait until January to
>speak to the group.
>      " This administration has been criticized for lack of communication,"
>Thames said.  "How can you communicate when people won't have you to
>communicate with you?"
>      Beckett could not be reached for comment.
>
>I think the record needs to be set straight here.  At the meeting Thursday
>afternoon, called by the USM Administration, a chronology of "SACS events"
>leading to the present probation was presented by Dr. Exline (attendees at the
>meeting included the deans, provost, Dr. Exline, Dr. Thames, and leaders of
>various councils, including the Faculty Senate).  After the chronology was
>given we were asked not to discuss it as such a discussion might lead to
>blaming
>individuals rather than focusing on solving the problem.  Since we were asked
>not to discuss it, I felt bound not to do so.  That is the cause of the
>comment
>from reporter Kevin Walters in the Friday, Dec. 10th Hattiesburg American that
>"while he [Beckett] provide Senate members with some information on how
>Southern
>Miss came to face the loss of its accreditation, he could not publicly discuss
>other information brought up at the meeting.  Among items he didn't want to
>discuss was a chronology of events behind the action by SACS."
>
>     When I am asked by a party or parties not to discuss an issue I feel
> bound
>to honor such an agreement.  As we now know, the entire chronology was
>subsequently listed in the Hattiesburg American on Saturday morning.
>
>      After we were asked not to discuss the chronology, a member of the
>administration asked if any meetings of campus groups were going to be held in
>the near future.  I do not know why that question was asked, however, I
>replied
>that a Faculty Senate meeting was being held later that afternoon.  Dr. Exline
>then asked if I wanted her to attend the Faculty Senate meeting planned for
>that same afternoon.  This was not a private conversation, rather it took
>place
>within the afternoon meeting.  I only had a second to make this decision, and
>my response was no, but that our next regularly scheduled meeting of the
>Faculty
>Senate was in January and we wished that she could attend that meeting and
>discuss the SACS issues.  My reasoning for this answer was as follows.  The
>Faculty Senate does not usually have December meetings.  Our meeting in
>December
>was a specially called meeting and was
>an outcome of the November Faculty Senate meeting where it was determined that
>we needed to have a special meeting to deal with two important issues:  post
>tenure review and an incident on the Gulf Coast.  The need for a special
>meeting
>and its two items for discussion was therefore set well ahead of the
>annnouncement of the SACS probation.
>
>      The revision of the post-tenure review policy was mandated by the
>IHL, to whom the USM administration reports.  We had been told repeatedly that
>we needed to finish this revision before Christmas.  Therefore, although the
>SACS probation was clearly "newsworthy," the Faculty Senate needed to focus on
>the two items which were the reasons for having the meeting.  Second, it
>seemed
>to me that if I could not speak about the chronology leading to SACS
>probation,
>then Dr. Exline could not speak about it either!  Finally, I also knew that
>more detailed information about the reasons USM is on probation would be
>released on a SACS website and sent in written form to the adinistration
>in the
>future, but before our January Faculty Senate meeting.  I concluded,
>therefore,
>that it would be more productive to ask Dr. Exline to attend our next meeting,
>which is next month.  Keep in mind that our next meeting is one month
>away, USM
>will be on probation for a minimum of 12 months.
>
>      I was disappointed to read that the Faculty Senate had been accused
> of not
>being willing to communicate.  A very good question at this point is, if it
>were true that we did not want to communicate, then why would I have asked Dr.
>Exline to come to our next Faculty Senate meeting?  Everyone at the Thursday,
>2:30 meeting heard me ask her to attend the January meeting.  At the Faculty
>Senate meeting later that day I repeated that I had asked Dr. Exline to attend
>the Janurary meeting to discuss the SACS situation with us.
>
>      I am now in my sixth consecutive year on the Faculty Senate.  Throughout
>that time we have always been open to communication and done our best to be
>open to anyone who wished to speak or address us.  During the present academic
>year the Executive Committee of the Faculty Senate has met every month
>with Dr.
>Thames and we have had good conversations with him.  We have also met with
>other members of the administration when it was important to do so.  On a
>personal level, I have had numerous conversations with members of the
>administration in the context of called meetings and in conversations between
>just two parties.  These conversations were always conducted civilly, with the
>goal of providing input to better our university.  There was and is no
>cause to
>accuse us of not being willing to communicate.
>
>      As I read the Hattiesburg American article Saturday afternoon it was
> clear
>to me that I had no choice but to ask Dr. Exline to address the Faculty Senate
>as soon as possible.  The chronology of events leading to SACS probation had
>now
>been published, and morevoer our commitment to communication had been called
>into question.  Consequently, I telephoned Dr. Exline Saturday afternoon
>at her
>home.  I told Dr. Exline that I was unhappy that the Faculty Senate had been
>unfairly accused of not wanting to communicate, and asked her if she could
>meet
>with us this week.  Dr. Exline replied that she would be able to meet with us
>this Wednesday, December 15th  at 5:00 PM to discuss the SACS probation.  I
>thank Dr. Exline for agreeing to meet with us.  As always, our meetings are
>open
>so I urge all Faculty Senators to attend, and invite other interested
>individuals as well.  We are searching for a room at present (the Hall of
>Honors
>is taken - caps and gowns are passed out there for this Friday's graduation).
>As soon as we have a room I will send that information out on facsen.  Thank
>you
>for your service to university as Faculty Senators.
>
>                                                  Sincerely,
>
>                                                  Dr. David Beckett
>
>                                                  President, Faculty Senate



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Emma

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Of course the Faculty Senate wants to communicate with the administrators - they always have. The problem is not on their end. The administration enjoys a shut door policy with the faculty and only "communicates" with them when trying to prove that they play with others well. We all know it's a facade. The Faculty Senate has integrity. But they are dealing with a dictator.  Here's hoping for a healthy breakthrough in communication on Friday, although I won't be holding my breath.


I am so tired of SFT and his cronies who feel like it's okay to lie when it comes to communicating with faculty and the Faculty Senate. The last time I actually saw them communicate with a faculty member was the Stevenson debacle. But they did communicate - by being nasty, high handed, and out of line.



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I would like to add to Dr. Beckett's comments. At the Thursday meeting, after Dr. Beckett had announced that FS was meeting later, I announced that Graduate Council was meeting on Monday afternoon. I also reminded her that Academic Council meets next in February.

I attended that GC meeting today as I am a member of that council. I learned that Dr.Exline did NOT request to attend this meetingbut in a conversation with Dr. Ed Mann, the GC chair, that they thought she should attend the meeting in January.

I think an apology is in order. Obviously Dr. Thames - on the one hand- states he doesn't want to place blame, and on the other hand has taken a number of opportunities to do just that.



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Originally posted by: Emma

"Of course the Faculty Senate wants to communicate with the administrators - they always have. The problem is not on their end. The administration enjoys a shut door policy with the faculty"


"Dr. Thames is now being pushed into opening up a dialogue with the faculty ..... and sitting down and working out the alleged differences with the faculty through the same Dr. Myron Henry, and sitting down and working out the alleged differences between the two groups. What a joke! . . . .  My advice to Dr. Thames is, to borrow a phrase: Damn the torpedos; full speed ahead." Roy Klumb, Gulfport.


SOURCE: Jackson Clarion-Ledger, June 12, 2003


 


 


 


 



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Originally posted by: Amy Young

"I would like to add to Dr. Beckett's comments. At the Thursday meeting, after Dr. Beckett had announced that FS was meeting later, I announced that Graduate Council was meeting on Monday afternoon. I also reminded her that Academic Council meets next in February. I attended that GC meeting today as I am a member of that council. I learned that Dr.Exline did NOT request to attend this meetingbut in a conversation with Dr. Ed Mann, the GC chair, that they thought she should attend the meeting in January. I think an apology is in order. Obviously Dr. Thames - on the one hand- states he doesn't want to place blame, and on the other hand has taken a number of opportunities to do just that. "

I heard that Dr. Exline had to be in Jackson today.  That may be why she couldn't attend GC.  I don't blame Dr. Exline, but SFT was out of line with his comment in the paper. 

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Originally posted by: Man Overboard




MINOR CORRECTION TO ABOVE POST.


CORRECTED COPY: "Dr. Thames is now being pushed into opening up a dialogue with the faculty through the same Dr. Myron Henry, and sitting down and working out the alleged differences between the two groups. What a joke! . . . . My advice to Dr. Thames is, to borrow a phrase: Damn the torpedoes; full speed ahead. Roy Klumb, Gulfport


SOURCE: Jackson Clarion-Ledger, June 12, 2003


 


SOURCE: Jackson Clarion-Ledger, June 12, 2003



 



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A guy like Shelby Thames is never sincere when he talks about communication.


I get the impression that Dave Beckett still wants to believe, contrary to all available evidence, that Shelby Thames really means what he says when he claims he wants to communicate with faculty members.  Or that Shelby Thames actually keeps his promises to faculty members.


The real reason for getting Beckett not to divulge the "time line" was to make sure that Thames' excuses and misrepresentations weren't ripped to pieces in an open meeting of the Faculty Senate before Thames and Mader could retail them to the press.


Robert Campbell



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