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Date: Oct 9, 2004

Student Printz

Date: Oct 9, 2004

many many thanks!!!!!

I'm about a thousand miles away from Hattiesburg physically, but in spirit - I'm right there with all of you in the area.

Date: Oct 9, 2004

I noticed that The Student Printz is almost back online. At WWW.Printz.USM.edu, you can get part of the front page of the Oct. 7 edition. Maybe by next week the person who does the page will be up to speed to post the whole paper.

Date: Oct 9, 2004

Smuggler,
Thank you so very much, from a full-time USM student located at a distant campus. You have satisfied my Printz withdrawals!! You are wonderful. Thanks again.
RS

Date: Oct 9, 2004

You might want to be careful. I'm afraid what you are doing violates copyright laws.

Date: Oct 9, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Copyright
"You might want to be careful. I'm afraid what you are doing violates copyright laws."

I would think the Printz excerpts might well fall under "fair use." Compare it with what most students are doing with music as we speak...

Date: Oct 10, 2004

I've been feeling deprived, without access to the Printz this semester.

So I'm really thankful for the clipping service.

Robert Campbell

Date: Oct 15, 2004

We've located a few more issues, new and old, and put clippings on-line for you. Newly-posted issues are marked "NEW." You'll find the hotlink at the top of this thread.

smuggler

Date: Oct 15, 2004

Thanks Smuggler.

I am curious about the correction noted in the most recent issue. All it says is, "The word should have been incompetence instead of incontinence."

Who might they have been describing?

Date: Oct 18, 2004

The correction is for an opinion piece on rudeness in the Oct. 12th issue:

"Thankfully, a man stood up from behind the counter (he was pretty much the only one working) and apologized for the girl’s incontinence. When we left, the Miss Rude was still on the phone, and hopefully headed on her way to permanent bookmart retirement."

This issue is one of two fragmentary ones online at www.printz.usm.edu.

Date: Oct 18, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: incontinent incompetent
" The correction is for an opinion piece on rudeness in the Oct. 12th issue:
"Thankfully, a man stood up from behind the counter (he was pretty much the only one working) and apologized for the girl’s incontinence.
www.printz.usm.edu."

Compulsive talking on cell phones can sometimes lead to incontinence......unless one continues to talk while ____ .

Date: Nov 1, 2004

Online access to the Student Printz is still spotty. Therefore the SPCS continues. Newly-posted issues are marked "NEW." You'll find the hotlink at the top of this thread.

smuggler

Date: Nov 17, 2004

More Student Printz clippings have been posted.

smuggler

Date: Nov 17, 2004

now that i've moved to north mississippi, i've missed the printz and it's impressive student journalism. i really appreciate being able to read a few articles on-line now.
as a former journalism student at usm, I'd put the printz next to any other "world class" publication without hesitation. but that's just my "fair and balanced" opinion.
i'm pleased to see thames and walt cain aren't given a free pass on everything they endorse.

Date: Nov 17, 2004

I was visiting The Hub and picked up two papers, the Student Printz and a slick-cover publication called The Varsity Voice. They appeared to serve basically the same function. What's the deal?

Date: Nov 17, 2004

The Printz is the real campus newspaper. VV is the voice of the Thames administration. Last semester the Printz was almost the only source for real campus information and was outspoken -- and for its trouble, its editor had her email intercepted, and read aloud by SFT at the Glamser-Stringer hearing. I have some issues with it this semester, and really miss Rachel and the previous editor, Robbie Ward (who also took some serious heat) , but it is still the real deal.

Date: Nov 17, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Chicken Soup Lady
"The Printz is the real campus newspaper. VV is the voice of the Thames administration. Last semester the Printz was almost the only source for real campus information and was outspoken -- and for its trouble, its editor had her email intercepted, and read aloud by SFT at the Glamser-Stringer hearing. I have some issues with it this semester, and really miss Rachel and the previous editor, Robbie Ward (who also took some serious heat) , but it is still the real deal."

I didn't think The Varsity Voice looked much like an underground newspaper such as is found on some campuses. But in my wildest dreams I didn't think your university would provide the funds to support two student newspapers. Even the wealthy schools don't do that. I must have grossly underestimated the financial assets of your school.

Date: Nov 17, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: campus visitor
"I didn't think The Varsity Voice looked much like an underground newspaper such as is found on some campuses. But in my wildest dreams I didn't think your university would provide the funds to support two student newspapers. Even the wealthy schools don't do that. I must have grossly underestimated the financial assets of your school. "

I'm not sure who pays for VV, but most are sure SFT is behind it. To bad the Printz graduated its veterans and now have so many rookies running the paper. It is taking a whole semester just to get the on lone version up to speed. They also fail to send reporters to the PC meetings. It's a good thing the Hattiesburg American attends.

Date: Nov 17, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Printz Reader
"I'm not sure who pays for VV."

The Varsity Voice I picked up on campus was in a rack at The Hub. Being distributed on university property, I would imagine the financial support mechanism would be a matter of public record and available somewhere. The only advertisement I saw in the copy I obtained was one on the rear cover. Maybe that is the only financial support needed and the school provides none. Is there a faculty advisor?

Date: Nov 17, 2004

From Webster's Glossary [available in Google cache]

The Varsity Voice < 1. new student newspaper to be introduced in the ‘04-‘05 academic year at USM by newly-elected Hub SGA president Walt Cain; 2. new student newspaper to serve as the mouthpiece of the administration, with editorials written by Lisa Mader, "news" coverage provided by Mader’s staff, with the financial backing of pro-Thames people in the private sector (see Thames Underworld).

From Hattiesburg American [also in Google cache]

Founders' Day places focus on USM's future
Group of students stages silent protest

By Kevin Walters; kwalters@hattiesb.gannett.com
American Staff Writer

With silent protesters providing a somber backdrop, Joe Paul remained upbeat in looking toward a future filled with promise in remarks during the Founders' Day ceremony Tuesday at the University of Southern Mississippi.

The longtime vice president of student affairs was one of several speakers, at a celebration of the university's 94th birthday which drew about 150 officials and students on the steps of the Administration Building.

"The beautiful thing about the future," Paul told listeners, "is that anything is possible."

The mood was sedate given the turmoil of recent weeks that saw student protests against the suspensions of tenured professors Frank Glamser and Gary Stringer, a rally in support of USM president Shelby Thames and a no-confidence vote against Thames by both the Faculty Senate and a majority of the school's faculty.

On Tuesday, about 14 students staged a silent protest, standing throughout the hour-long ceremony with signs that included "Thames is not my president" and "For Sale Southern Miss."

At the ceremony, Walt Cain, 21, was sworn in as Student Government Association president. He urged his fellow students to use the SGA to voice their concerns about the university instead of staging protests.

Cain said he planned to create a second campus newspaper - The Varsity Voice - that would be run solely by the SGA, in addition to starting an SGA Web site and a Southern Miss online community.

The longtime student newspaper The Student Printz is produced by students and is independent from the SGA.

Among students, the controversy drew mixed responses. Junior Krystal Bates, 21, and sophomore Jessica Gordon, 20, both expressed their support for the university and wanted the school to get past its current troubles because they have been a distraction.

"I'm just looking for a resolution so we can go on," Gordon said.

Student David Sarton, 21, simply wants Glamser and Stringer to be reinstated while Amber Huff, 23, favored Thames stepping down as president. The emotions of the past few weeks may have cooled, Huff said, but the anger hasn't disappeared.

"I know that work is still going on intensely in the community and in the state and outside the state," Huff said.

She said the SGA has ignored the requests of students to hold a campus-wide referendum about the controversy and believed the SGA's newspaper "smacked of state-run media."

Raylawni Branch, 62, one of two black students who successfully integrated USM in 1965, attended Tuesday's ceremony and said the recent controversy has hurt the university nationally and internationally. She urged Thames to open the lines of communication and said he is hurting the school by not doing so.

"Lawyers are dictating what is said on both sides," Branch said, "so the people will never be heard and that's sad."

"The beautiful thing about the future is that anything is possible.''

Originally published Wednesday, March 31, 2004

Date: Nov 17, 2004

The SGA budget grew from under $100,000 last year to over $210,000 this year. $50,000 of that new budget is for "communication," primarily the Varsity Voice. The SGA money comes from the university, likely from the collection of amorphous "student fees." Some money for the Varsity Voice must also be coming in through the ads.

The Printz ran an article on the SGA budget. It's in the clipping service at http://www.geocities.com/studentprintz/20040928.jpg.

Date: Nov 24, 2004

More Student Printz clippings are up today.

smuggler

Date: Nov 24, 2004

Thanks, Smuggler. It looks like Bobby Chain and SFT are reconciled: "Bobby Chain . . . said USM will be the only university in the United States to . . . offer a master's degree in economic development and the only university to offer a Ph.D in economic development in the world." (emphasis added).

Also, the Trent Lott Center "will match the architecture on campus."

"It has a limestone exterior with big white columns." . . . said Chain."

I seem to remember that most of the buildings on campus have a red brick exterior. Red brick, white limestone. Whatever.

The picture in the print Printz looks more like the Hattiesburg downtown post office or a D.C. office building than anything I remember from campus.

Date: Nov 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: ram
"It looks like Bobby Chain and SFT are reconciled: "Bobby Chain . . . said USM will be the only university in the United States to . . . offer a master's degree in economic development and the only university to offer a Ph.D in economic development in the world.""

Most brilliant PR effort to date...

After many months of rallying behind Bobby Chain as the local hero who took on Shelby Thames in the local media, the faculty is hardly going to now call him a liar. If Shelby had said these bogus words, this board would have exploded in condemnation.

Talk about co-option...

Date: Nov 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Hat's off to the bad guys
"If Shelby had said these bogus words, this board would have exploded in condemnation. Talk about co-option..."

Bad Hat, an academician is held to a higher standard when speaking about academic matters than is a layman. Mr. Chain is a layman. He would not be expected to be as conversant about such matters as is a college president. There is no co-option issue here whatsoever.

Date: Nov 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Mat Hatter
"Bad Hat, an academician is held to a higher standard when speaking about academic matters than is a layman. Mr. Chain is a layman. He would not be expected to be as conversant about such matters as is a college president. There is no co-option issue here whatsoever."

We'll see. I hope you are correct and fear you are not. In case you misunderstood, I was not referring to Mr. Chain.

Date: Nov 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Hat's Off (along with gloves)
"We'll see. I hope you are correct and fear you are not. In case you misunderstood, I was not referring to Mr. Chain."

Mad Hat. I suppose I did misunderstand. The prevailing campus fog must have affected my judgment. Would you explain where I went wrong in my interpretation of your post?

Date: Nov 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Mad Hatter
"Mad Hat. I suppose I did misunderstand. The prevailing campus fog must have affected my judgment. Would you explain where I went wrong in my interpretation of your post?"

Well, first let's clarify who's who...You're Mat and Mad and my Hat's off (along with gloves) to both you and the bad guys. Now, to the discussion at hand.

I believe that using Bobby Chain, who of late has been an outspoken critic of the Thames regime, to spread a false message was a brilliant PR ploy and I don't think it was accidental. I further believe that people who know the message to be false will not publicly criticize it given its source. Thus, I believe that the incredible message that started in the dome is now being spread by a source deemed credible. The most outspoken critics of the economic development hype will be silent in deference to Mr. Chain and the dome of doom will chalk up another PR victory. Those who choose not to point out the lie when they know it for what it is are being co-opted, brilliantly in my humble opinion.

Have a nice Thanksgiving - I am going to spend the next 5 days enumerating my many blessings that have no relation whatsoever to economic development.

Date: Nov 24, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Hat's off to you
" Well, first let's clarify who's who...You're Mat and Mad and my Hat's off (along with gloves) to both you and the bad guys. Now, to the discussion at hand. I believe that using Bobby Chain, who of late has been an outspoken critic of the Thames regime, to spread a false message was a brilliant PR ploy and I don't think it was accidental. I further believe that people who know the message to be false will not publicly criticize it given its source. Thus, I believe that the incredible message that started in the dome is now being spread by a source deemed credible. The most outspoken critics of the economic development hype will be silent in deference to Mr. Chain and the dome of doom will chalk up another PR victory. Those who choose not to point out the lie when they know it for what it is are being co-opted, brilliantly in my humble opinion. Have a nice Thanksgiving - I am going to spend the next 5 days enumerating my many blessings that have no relation whatsoever to economic development."

Oh, I think I understand now: A message delivered by messenger A can evoke a totally different response than the very same message delivered by messenger B. How clever of messenger A. And a happy holiday to you! My blessings are also totally unrelated to the midas complex - the turkey never laid the golden egg for me, but then I was too busy doing things I though were far more important and satisfying.