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Date: Sep 30, 2004

PC Agenda

Date: Sep 30, 2004

Would somebody explain items 2d & 5?

Other than DJ Johnson reading the minutes, this looks like a Thames-Malone-Lassen dog-and-pony show.

Who's presenting the "lawsuit trend data"? (Something tells me it will be a demonstration that the number of lawsuits has declined under the Thames administration. In fact, I'm willing to bet a six pack of Steam on it... )

Date: Sep 30, 2004

Another 7:00am meeting...must be trying for a big walk-in crowd!

Date: Sep 30, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Invictus
"Would somebody explain items 2d & 5?

Other than DJ Johnson reading the minutes, this looks like a Thames-Malone-Lassen dog-and-pony show.

Who's presenting the "lawsuit trend data"? (Something tells me it will be a demonstration that the number of lawsuits has declined under the Thames administration. In fact, I'm willing to bet a six pack of Steam on it... )"

Invictus, this is a tentative agenda. The spaces are open for additions. Item 2 is SFT updating on issues previously discussed. IIRC the lawsuits data was mentioned during discussion moving AA, that is, would really be a saving if it resulted in more suits.

Date: Sep 30, 2004

Maybe the next PC meeting will be the one that leads Thames to disband it... If hard-hitting questions are asked, he's going to have trouble dealing with them.

Robert Campbell

Date: Sep 30, 2004

HE's not going to be answering the tough questions...that's why his new chief advisors are going to be there...

Date: Sep 30, 2004

Then every questioner needs to stress Thames' personal responsibility for the lies about the Economic Development program, the lies about savings from the reorganization of the colleges, etc.

Robert Campbell

Date: Sep 30, 2004

Just to be sure, the lawsuit trend data is in reference to reorganizing AA, correct? Its central premise is that reorganizing Aff Action will reduce lawsuits? Huh?

Date: Sep 30, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: educator
"Just to be sure, the lawsuit trend data is in reference to reorganizing AA, correct? Its central premise is that reorganizing Aff Action will reduce lawsuits? Huh?"

Yes, educator, the trend data is in reference to reorganizing AA.
Your second statement isn't correct. The central premise on the part of the FACULTY was that reducing the image of AA will reduce it's effectiveness and result in more
lawsuits. This must be considered before you can estimate any "savings".

Date: Sep 30, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Reporter
" Yes, educator, the trend data is in reference to reorganizing AA. Your second statement isn't correct. The central premise on the part of the FACULTY was that reducing the image of AA will reduce it's effectiveness and result in more lawsuits. This must be considered before you can estimate any "savings"."

Thanks, Reporter. Gotcha. I appreciate the clarification -- I knew I was confused, but too brain befuddled to figure it out myself. What you've said now makes sense. And, of course the faculty's argument makes too much sense to more than likely ever

(at left Thames, Lord of the Prance) be seriously considered.

Date: Oct 1, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: educator
"Lord of the Prance"

Fabulous!

Date: Oct 2, 2004

Word is that some are trying to get Post-Tenure Review on the PUC agenda in a "priority" position so that it will not tabled until next meeting.

Date: Oct 2, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Reporter
"Word is that some are trying to get Post-Tenure Review on the PUC agenda in a "priority" position so that it will not tabled until next meeting. "

I bet there will be a great deal of administrative support for changing that priority too! Anything that will divert scrutiny from economic development as the strategic focus of the dome to something that will be pushed down the ranks, especially with an IHL meeting coming up. The timing of this issue is suspect. Shelby avoided the confrontation about Economic Development because of Ivan and my do it again because of the passion over Post-Tenure Review - maybe he's got a direct line (through his very own call center?) after all.

Date: Oct 2, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: No coincidences
"
I bet there will be a great deal of administrative support for changing that priority too! Anything that will divert scrutiny from economic development as the strategic focus of the dome to something that will be pushed down the ranks, especially with an IHL meeting coming up. The timing of this issue is suspect. Shelby avoided the confrontation about Economic Development because of Ivan and my do it again because of the passion over Post-Tenure Review - maybe he's got a direct line (through his very own call center?) after all."

My understanding is that ED is not under attack by the PUC, but rather the PR about ED.
The issue raised was the credibility fo USM's PR. Now from your statements you imply there maybe discussion of ED as a focus. Do you have inside information about this?

Date: Oct 2, 2004

quote:
Originally posted by: Reader
" My understanding is that ED is not under attack by the PUC, but rather the PR about ED. The issue raised was the credibility fo USM's PR. Now from your statements you imply there maybe discussion of ED as a focus. Do you have inside information about this?"

The only thing under attack is this administration's credibility - the PR surrounding Economic Development provides one of the best platforms to scrutinize credibility.